Help finding civil marriage records

[jamesm113]

Ok, so I've been having a difficult time finding civil records for a couple that I know married in 1868 in County Cavan, which is after civil registration began for marriages

Using RootsIreland.ie, I was able to find a church record for 12 June 1868 in Drumlane.  I could also find a microfilm on NLI as well.

However, if I use IrishGeneralogy.ie, I cannot find anything.

Here's the husband: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/KZZY-R4Y

I've also had limited success finding records for their children as well.

Any help appreciated.  Thanks!

[athacliath62]

The marriage may not have been registered in civil records even though it should have been, there are gaps where the paperwork was never sent in.

[shanreagh]

What is the name of the church.  There are a couple:

St Columba
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/IRL/CAV/Drumlane/St-Colomba-Killynaher-COI
 and
St Mary
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/IRL/CAV/Drumlane/St-Mary-KILCONNY-STAGHALL-RC

Is the name of the wife Bridget Donohue?

Following the links you have given from William Maguire I have found this birth of a child
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03394/2244478.pdf

[jamesm113]

Yes, wife's name is Bridget Donohue.  Born in Feugh Bishops, 19 April 1846

They were Roman Catholic.  Most of their children were baptized in St. Patrick's in Milltown. 

But I believe most (if not all) of the St Patrick's records aren't available on NLI, so I'm not actually sure which church they were married.

[shanreagh]

So where have you got the information with the marriage date in 1868 please? is it from Family Search?

So did William die in 1879 of phthisis?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1879/06496/4870050.pdf

[jamesm113]

Ok, so it looks like the NLI register says Staghall, which (I'm as I'm learning right now) is another town/church, near Belturbet.

Which wouldn't make sense, as her birth place was Feugh Bishops and his birthplace (Creeny) are by Milltown.

Unless, of course, her birth place was actually Feugh Maxwell, and at some point along the way, was confused with Feugh Bishops.  Feugh Maxwell is closer to Staghall than Milltown.

[jamesm113]

So where have you got the information with the marriage date in 1868 please? is it from Family Search?

I couldn't find anything in FamilySearch about it.

I first located it on RootsIreland's index:
Date of Marriage: 12-Jun-1868       
Parish / District: Drumlane
County:   County Cavan

Husband      
Name: William Maguire   
Address: Creeny
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Occupation:   
Age:         
Status:

Wife
Name: Bridget Donohoe
Address: Feugh
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Occupation:         
Age:         
Status:         

Husband's Father      
Name:   John   Maguire
Address:         
Denomination:         
Occupation:
Wife's Father
   
Husband's Mother
Name:   Mary Maguire
Address:         
Denomination:         
Occupation:

Wife's Father
Name: Patrick Donohoe
Address:         
Denomination:         
Occupation:

Wife's Mother
Name: Bridget Donohoe
Address:         
Denomination:         
Occupation:
         
Witness 1      
Name: John McGannon
Witness 2
Name: Bridget Donohoe
Address:         
Notes:

Then I was able to find it on NLI parish registers, page 4: https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634855#page/4/mode/1up

12 June 1868 Marriage
Groom: William Maguire, Creeny
Groom's father: John Maguire
Groom's mother: Mary Maguire

Bride: Bridget Donohoe, Feugh
Bride's father: Patrick Donohue
Bride's mother: Bridget Donohue

Witness 1: John McGannon
Witness 2: Bridget Donohue

[shanreagh]

Ok, so it looks like the NLI register says Staghall, which (I'm as I'm learning right now) is another town/church, near Belturbet.

Which wouldn't make sense, as her birth place was Feugh Bishops and his birthplace (Creeny) are by Milltown.

Unless, of course, her birth place was actually Feugh Maxwell, and at some point along the way, was confused with Feugh Bishops.  Feugh Maxwell is closer to Staghall than Milltown.

The church, St Mary's, at the link above is in Staghall.

Info on the town land of Drumlane
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/loughtee-lower/drumlane/milltown/drumlane/

ETA Which the children are you missing Irish Genealogy links for? 

[jamesm113]

So did William die in 1879 of phthisis?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1879/06496/4870050.pdf

Yes, there might be a tiny bit of doubt left, but I couldn't find any children after Feb 1880, and I couldn't find any more dog registrations stopped in 1878.

I also suspect the odds of another William Maguire, of that same townland, of that same age, are very small.