Susannah Gwilliam Who Married Richard Howard Hoskins in Manchester in 1834

[Handson]

Can anyone tell me what subsequently happened to Susannah? I've been unable to trace anything about her after her marriage.
Thanks.

[rosie99]

Where do you have Richard in 1841/51.  Who else is living with him

[Handson]

In 1841 Richard  (age given as 35) is together with another 14 persons in an Inn in York Street Manchester.
The innkeeper is James Thompson.
Richard Hoskins died on 23 December 1850 and is buried in Chester Overleigh Cemetery.
In 1845 Richard became the licensee of the Black Dog Hotel /Coffee House in Chester.
See attachment of the Black Dog Hotel with Richard Hoskins name on it as taken by none other than Henry Fox-Talbot incidentally. I hope the attachment sends O.K..
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[Milliepede]

Have you found any children for them?  She could be down under a variant of her name such as Hannah or Anna, Susan etc

Did he die as a widower do you know.  You could check to see who is buried with him in case she died first and they are together.

[Handson]

I looked for any children on freebsd (1837 onwards) and found none.
Richard lead a strange life in that he was a music hall actor and appeared for most of his adult life in comedy shows at various N.W. England Theatre Royals. I've browsed every mention of him between 1830 and 1850 in British Newspaper Archives and there's never been any mention of his wife.
BTW on the marriage certificate his wife signed Susannah but as you say she could have been less formal.
Richard Howard Hoskins to give him his full name was buried without a headstone in Overleigh Cemetery but his grave is recorded. There is no mention of susannah being buried in that Cemetery. or whether he was a widower.
However the burial plot does hold two later Hoskins - two spinsters;  mother and daughter Elizabeth died 1857 aged 67 and Eleanor who died in 1858. Their names are on a headstone over the grave but as I said there's no mention of Richard on the headstone.
As far as I can ascertain the two spinsters are totally unrelated to Richard and originated in Cumberland from an aristocratic family. It seems inexplicable and apparently irrelevant to the mystery about Susannah why the spinsters were interred in the same grave as Richard Hoskins. Could the gravediggers assume that Richard's plot was handy with the same family name in what may have been a crowded Cemetery?
I forgot to add that Richard Hoskins wife Susannah does not appear in the list of 14 persons in the 1841 census.

[california dreamin]

Its a real mystery to be sure.

I wonder if you've had a look at a death of a Susan Hoskins in Liverpool 1851?
Burial is at St Martin in the Field, L'pool (age 48 so yr of  birth approx. 1803)  resident of Cockspur St. death is registered so you could take a punt and buy the d/c?


CD

[CaroleW]

There is an 1851 entry for an Ann Hoskins - widow - aged 50 b Flintshire (shown as Wales Hint on Ancestry)  She is a charwoman in lodgings in Manchester

Piece 2224/406/27
 

[heywood]

Just to say for your records, they didn’t marry in Manchester.
The marriage is in the parish of Prestwich and the couple at that time were from Oldham, according to the record.
It doesn’t help with anything else though, sorry.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Its a real mystery to be sure.

I wonder if you've had a look at a death of a Susan Hoskins in Liverpool 1851?
Burial is at St Martin in the Field, L'pool (age 48 so yr of  birth approx. 1803)  resident of Cockspur St. death is registered so you could take a punt and buy the d/c?

CD

She's on 1851 at that address - widow, b Edinburgh c 1803. Seamstress