1861 census help please

[Chris3157]

Found on 1871 and 1851 census but unable to find on 1861 census any help please
Jonathan johnson born 1819 ingoldmells
Mary Johnson born 1817 Well (wife)
James Johnson born 1858 Winthorpe (son)
Mary Ann Johnson born 1850 Winthorpe (daughter)
Samuel Johnson  born 1846 Skegness(son)

[heywood]

Ancestry

1861 2376 /148/8
Winthorpe
Jonathan Johnson 42 yrs
Mary 44 yrs
Mary Ann 11 yrs
Wm 9 yrs
Martha 6 yrs
James 3 yrs

[heywood]

Sorry, I wrote James instead of Jonathan but I have corrected it.

Added
I can’t see them on Family Search

[rosie99]

I can't see them on FindMyPast using the references or anything else   .  The enumerators writing is pretty awful but it should not stop me finding it by reference, no doubt someone will   .   That would probably explain why it is missing on familysearch

[Chris3157]

[Thanks strange that william and martha do not appear on later census


Ancestry
1861 2376 /148/8
Winthorpe
Jonathan Johnson 42 yrs
Mary 44 yrs
Mary Ann 11 yrs
Wm 9 yrs
Martha 6 yrs
James 3 yrs
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[Ladyhawk]

Thanks strange that william and martha do not appear on later census

Ancestry
1861 2376 /148/8
Winthorpe
Jonathan Johnson 42 yrs
Mary 44 yrs
Mary Ann 11 yrs
Wm 9 yrs
Martha 6 yrs
James 3 yrs

I think this is probably Martha in 1871

Martha Johnson Age   16
Relation   Servant
born   Winthorpe, Lincolnshire
Civil parish   Skegness
Piece   3394
Folio   49
Page number   6

Edit to add and William in 1871

William Johnson Age   18
Relation   Servant
Where born   Winthorpe, Lincolnshire
Civil parish   Ingoldmels
Registration District   Spilsby
Piece   3394
Folio   19
Page number   4

[heywood]

There is a published tree showing Martha as posted in 1871 and a marriage in 1878, Caistor, Lincs to George Hook.
Also, there is a death referenced in 1940.

[rosie99]

It looks as though Martha was the 2nd Martha to that couple

Birth
JOHNSON, MARTHA    mmn   ROBINSON 
GRO Reference: 1851  June Quarter in SPILSBY  Volume 14  Page 623

Death
JOHNSON, MARTHA       age 0 
GRO Reference: 1851  June Quarter in SPILSBY  Volume 14  Page 406

Birth
JOHNSON, MARTHA       mmn ROBINSON 
GRO Reference: 1855  March Quarter in SPILSBY  Volume 07A  Page 499
 

[Chris3157]

Thank you ....just wondering if Phyliss could have appeared on 1921 census as Nellie as I think I saw a Nellie with a Mary Johnson and if her husband George could have been in another part of the country after the war as he was a bricklayer ...I will revisit the library to get 1921 census details

Ancestry
1861 2376 /148/8
Winthorpe
Jonathan Johnson 42 yrs
Mary 44 yrs
Mary Ann 11 yrs
Wm 9 yrs
Martha 6 yrs
James 3 yrs
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I think this is probably Martha in 1871

Martha Johnson Age   16
Relation   Servant
born   Winthorpe, Lincolnshire
Civil parish   Skegness
Piece   3394
Folio   49
Page number   6

Edit to add and William in 1871

William Johnson Age   18
Relation   Servant
Where born   Winthorpe, Lincolnshire
Civil parish   Ingoldmels
Registration District   Spilsby
Piece   3394
Folio   19
Page number   4
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