John Crammond marriage 1832

[Forfarian]

Does anyone have easy access to the marriage registers of St Hilda's, South Shields?

John Crammon married Margaret Ward there on 22 September 1832.

I would like to know, please, whether or not the marriage record names his parents, and if so who they were.

[Tickettyboo]

Durham Records Online have a transcript of this marriage (available as ppv for a modest fee) which names witnesses but no parents. As the surviving BTs earlier than 1833 are not available on FS I'd guess they transcribed that from the PR

1833 BT marriages for St Hilda are available on FS and looking at this one shows the format in which they were recorded
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6QL6-3S?

so the answer is no, the marriage record is highly unlikely to name parents of the parties.

If you can find his declared age and birthplace in census records, your best bet would be to look for baptism records to see if you can get further

Boo

[Tickettyboo]

The marriage was mentioned in the newspapers (though it would seem there is a date discrepancy)

Durham Chronicle 28 Sep 1832 page 3
At St Hilda's, South Shields, on the 24th inst., Matthew Pearson to Isabella Pearson, both of that town;
and on the 25th, John Crammond, to Mary Ward, both of North Shields

Boo

[Forfarian]

so the answer is no, the marriage record is highly unlikely to name parents of the parties.

Thank you. That was rather what I feared.

If you can find his declared age and birthplace in census records, your best bet would be to look for baptism records to see if you can get further

I have him in the 1841, 1851 and 1861 aged 41, 51 and 60, with wife Margaret Ward aged 34 and 45 in 1841 and 1851. Births of younger children confirm that this is the correct couple.

There is a baptism of John Cramon, parents Robert C and Margaret Bainbridge, in Chester-le-Street on 15 November 1801, and there is a Margaret Cramon, aged 79, in his household in 1841.

It's not critical, because what I am trying to do is prove that this family is not related to George Cramond and Jean Moug, who married in 1803 in Brechin, and I have enough to prove that they are definitely not descendants of George and Jean.

[willsy]

I found the marriage in the South Shields list 1825-1833, marriage 22nd Sept.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01toq/

[Tickettyboo]

I found the marriage in the South Shields list 1825-1833, marriage 22nd Sept.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01toq/

Oh well done willsy!
 
Though I had realised that the LDS had split St Hilda's Bts between headings of St Hilda and South Shields St Hilda on their listings at
https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/image/index?owc=https://www.familysearch.org/service/cds/recapi/collections/1309819/waypoints
I had missed that they have also got another heading of South Shields. (how many splits did they make?)


Apologies to Forfarian though I was correct in saying parents of the parties would not get a mention, I failed to find the entry. Luckily willsy is much more clued up than I :-)

Boo

[willsy]

Thanks Boo,

Have spent the past few months in these registers and the cemetery records; still trying to get my head round some of them

[willsy]

Have you got this ref. Forfarian?

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tor/

[willsy]

Newcastle Guardian And Tyne Mercury

At Seghill, on the 20th inst. aged 84, Mrs Margaret Cramman