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Nathanial Ryan Family Whitegate
« on: Thursday 13 March 25 23:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi All,
Looking for information on Nathanial Ryan 1788-1835 according to family lore he was a steward on Whitegate Estates. His daughter Catherine Ryan 1821-1906 was my 2x great grandmother. I have pictures of a family bible that was given to Nathanial Ryan WhiteGates 1822 Whitegate Clonrush .Her uncle Frances Ryan was an early settler in Ontario Canada. Catherine came to Canada after her aunt Ann Navin died. She taught her to be a seamstress. Her mother Mary Ryan died in child birth or shortly after. There is some confusion within the family as to who Nathanial's father was, some say it was Philip Ryan who died in 1808 and was a steward on Whitegate, some say it was Thomas Ryan. I wonder if his name was Thomas Philip Ryan, a Philip Ryan married an Abigail Fletcher 1810 Eire Ireland. It is interesting that Philip Ryan's father's name is Nathanial and that would fit with the naming convention. Memorial Registry Deed 215551. And I don't see any Thomas names in the family. Catherine's uncle Frances was an very early settler in Ontario 1825 forward. Catherine Ryan also had a sister Abigail who came to Canada with her brother Caleb.These  I saw some post from a Murry F who had information and would love to communicate. Kind regards Sue

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Re: Nathanial Ryan Family Whitegate
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 15 March 25 00:02 GMT (UK) »
OP  - You don't mention a critical piece of information: their religion.

Also, are you sure your family are from Whitegate Co.Clare, as opposed to the much better known Whitegate, Co. Cork?
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Nathanial Ryan Family Whitegate
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 15 March 25 03:19 GMT (UK) »
As far as I am aware they were members of the Church of Ireland.
I can only go by the information that was passed down through Catherine Ryan to her granddaughters her father was a steward on Whitegate. An the only other information is on the bible that was her fathers and it written "A gift given to Nathanial Ryan Whitegate Clonrush 1822".

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Re: Nathanial Ryan Family Whitegate
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 15 March 25 07:07 GMT (UK) »

Welcome to RootsChat  :)

Here's the area being talked about-

The townland of Whitegate in Clonrush civil parish. Co Clare.

https://www.townlands.ie/clare/leitrim/clonrush/drummaan/whitegate/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6205736#map=12/52.9644/-8.3966


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Re: Nathanial Ryan Family Whitegate
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 15 March 25 20:12 GMT (UK) »
One important point is that the civil parish of Clonrush was formerly part of Co. Galway, until some time after 1841.
That affects looking for records such as tythe valuations, deeds, etc.

With that said, the 1830 tythe valuation for Clonrush can be found under Galway at the National Archives. There is an entry for Natt. (i.e Nathaniel) Ryan in Whitegate, occupying a very small (less than 1 rood!) holding.
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587423/004587423_00274.pdf
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Nathanial Ryan Family Whitegate
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 15 March 25 20:57 GMT (UK) »
Nath. Ryan married Mary Navin, 1810
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/dm/IRE_DIOC_007246536_00284.pdf

Several other Ryan MLs appear to be of interest. e.g. marriages for Francis and Philip Ryan.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Nathanial Ryan Family Whitegate
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 16 March 25 04:58 GMT (UK) »
CofI parish registers are extant, but only from 1851. Under Inniscaltra, Co. Galway.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area