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Re: Aquilla Wanser
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 22 March 25 10:18 GMT (UK) »
Good Morning
I used Find My past but no luck with their marriage I'm afraid.
I'll be honest I'm struggling to find anything on the family before late 1640's
A second marriage to Margaret Tidd single woman 9.2.1668 after Alice's death 28.10.1668.
So 4 months latter.
And Henry's burial Henry Wanser senior 9.9.1707
That's it .No sign of the first marriage to Alice.

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Re: Aquilla Wanser
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 22 March 25 11:17 GMT (UK) »
Possibly
Henry Waynford, baptised 10 January 1621/2, Wells next the Sea
Father Henry
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5818a86be93790eca3922790

Henry senior may be the same Henry (Wainfoord) who had a son Edward baptised at nearby Barney in 1608
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5818d82fe93790ec8b46cc9d

Followed by Priscilla in 1610
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5818d82ee93790ec8b46cc19

There is though another Priscilla Wainsford baptism to Henry in Wells in 1619
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5818a86ce93790eca39228c6

An Edward Waynford married in Wells in September 1635
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/58184210e93790eb7f76d7fa

Is he Edward Wanfor, father of Susanna, who was baptised there in November? Though findmypast say Waynford
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5818a8b6e93790eca392d160

Ann baptised in 1640? According to Free Reg
Barbary Wanfor baptised in 1643. Parents Edward and Mary
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5818a8b3e93790eca392c95e

Some ifs and buts here, but perhaps something to investigate.

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Re: Aquilla Wanser
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 22 March 25 11:41 GMT (UK) »
Thank you to both for supplying that information.
I had found Henry’s second wife but did not have his death date so that fills in a gap in my research. I’ll try using Find my past for other searches.
If there are no records of the Wanser/ Wanfer name before that I am wondering whether they could have come from abroad. The surname is Dutch/ Germanic sounding and with Wells being a port at the time they could be immigrants. Norfolk had a Dutch population in the 1600s and there was an interesting programme on tv recently about the Dutch influence on engineering and architecture at the time.

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Re: Aquilla Wanser
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 22 March 25 17:52 GMT (UK) »
Wanfer entries  in Wells next the Sea seem to date from 1640 (Susanna in 1635 is Wainford/Waynford)

I think the reason for the change in the recording of the name from Wainford and obvious variant spellings to Wanfer may be due to the arrival in Wells at that time of a new Rector, Mungo Murray. He was appointed on 13 Dec 1638, and may have been rector there for twenty years or more
https://theclergydatabase.org.uk/jsp/persons/CreatePersonFrames.jsp?PersonID=126412

There may be a handwriting change in the parish register. Did he write them up himself?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6GP3-T1

Spelling of some other names have changed at the same time, Blowme has become Bloome, Cosine has become Coson (I haven't gone through the whole A-Z)


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Re: Aquilla Wanser
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 22 March 25 18:16 GMT (UK) »
That would explain it. Also, as they were illiterate themselves they wouldn’t realise that the spelling of their name had changed.
I’m going to take a look at the Wainsfords tonight to see whether I can fill in more gaps.
Thank you

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Re: Aquilla Wanser
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 02 April 25 17:18 BST (UK) »
You might not be able to find a marriage between Henry and Alice because it may have been a clandestine marriage or a "fleet marriage." Which was held in secrecy, and many times without a church banns or marriage license. The marriage act of 1753 stopped this from happening frequently.

I find with many of my ancestor who lived before the 1750s have no marriage record. It makes finding a mother's maiden name or who a daughter marries very hard. If they have rare given name, like Frances, Priscilla, or Cornelia, I find baptism records that include a mother's name, and try to track the mother until they die. I usually go off of names, and it helps if someone else in the family also has a rare given name, as then her children may also have the same name. If a burial record with an age can be found, it's even better. Of course I doubt everyone is 100% correct.
Essex - Usher, Pickess, Mulley, Higham, Macey, Clark, Garwood, Underton.

Yorkshire - Mercer, Bratt (Immigrated from France), Zanelli (Immigrated from Italy), Moal/Mole(Immigrated from Germany)

Surrey - Usher

Staffordshire - Clueit, Edwards, Willoughby.

Wiltshire - Macey, Burt, Vincent, Coole, Lovett, Nisbeck.

Suffolk - Pickess, Carpenter, Osborn.

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Re: Aquilla Wanser
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 02 April 25 22:11 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that information AR Usher. It is highly likely the marriages were not recorded.
Yes, I am finding that unusual names do make it easier to find individuals and follow families through the generations.