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Re: Desk job military in WWI
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 26 March 25 21:09 GMT (UK) »
Harriet's from Romford./Ilford area Her first marriage doesn't appear to have lasted a month before Mr Stacey left her - he was a soldier and was later in Cairo and elsewhere. She divorced him - looks like the decree nisi came through and she and Mr Todd married almost immediately

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Re: Desk job military in WWI
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 26 March 25 22:06 GMT (UK) »
Thanks - yes, I saw about the divorce (shocking in those days) but didn't know her first husband was a soldier. I've traced pretty well the whole of Capt. Todd's life now except what role he played in the war and if he was indeed linked to a Yorkshire regiment. He gave up farming and seemed to spend the rest of his life playing golf!

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Re: Desk job military in WWI
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 29 March 25 15:39 GMT (UK) »
He may well have joined his local regiment the West Yorkshires but never served abroad.  Rather grandiose to style oneself a Captain based on that but not uncommon for the golf club!

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Re: Desk job military in WWI
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 29 March 25 15:53 GMT (UK) »
That’s possible, but I can’t find a connection to West Yorkshire. He’s included on a local plaque of those from a small hamlet who served in WWI and he’s the only one we can’t find any war info on. (He lived in a big house near the hamlet for about 10 years.)


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Re: Desk job military in WWI
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 29 March 25 22:59 GMT (UK) »
Whereabouts is the small hamlet please?

So are you saying that he actually spent the war in England and not West Africa? 

Have you found and requested his military file?

Also if he was 46 at the beginning of the war that is old for active service ie immediately going off to France though here in NZ at the start of the war older men holding rank ie on the reserve at the start of the war were assigned duties relating to their expertise  eg admin tasks relating to call-ups etc, gunnery instructors etc. Later on these older men did go overseas to back up younger ones who were administrators or instructors and who were then released to fight in trenches etc.

I am not sure why you feel someone who was in the military especially if this started from service in the territorials ie before any war was declared, but not on service on the battlefields was not entitled to or receiving medals.  That is not how it works.....at the very least if he was serving anywhere in the military in WW1 he would have an entitlement to the medals that all who served, no matter what capacity, got. 

There is a huge number of people supporting the effort that goes to ensuring boots are on the ground in actual battles.  I guess the numbers and set-up of the military would show those figures.

Another way of illustrating this is to look capacity in the NZ health sector, currently, it is estimated that every Dr in our public health system is backed up/needs the support of between 7 to 8 people in order to carry out their role. In the UK I am sure there will be similar figures.

To support thousands of men overseas fighting they would need thousands of people in back-up back home.


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Re: Desk job military in WWI
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 30 March 25 03:08 BST (UK) »
Hi again Shanreagh,  yes I know large numbers of non-fighting people are needed to support an army and I am not saying they don’t deserve medals. However with all the other men commemorated on the WWI plaques, they were easily traced by their WWI medal records and I can’t find this man by that means. He was in Staffordshire in June 1915 giving wounded soldiers at the Infirmary rides in his car (newspaper report), having married in London earlier in the year. I assume he served directly in some way after that to get his rank of Captain but I can't find him. It's OK, we'll just leave that part of his story blank.

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Re: Desk job military in WWI
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 30 March 25 11:18 BST (UK) »
Captain C W Todd of the West Yorkshire Regiment was living at Moreton Park, Newport, Shropshire in 1918.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1262/images/30850_A001562-01414

Mrs Todd was advertising for maids in January 1919  https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/e0d86031-2597-42ab-a1d3-443657a54460

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Re: Desk job military in WWI
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 30 March 25 11:30 BST (UK) »
1916 Staffordshire Directory (Moreton lies on the border with Shopshire):  Under Moreton, Chas Wm Todd, farmer, Moreton Park.


https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/2583/records/1769204


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Re: Desk job military in WWI
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 30 March 25 11:33 BST (UK) »
Oh, well found Shaun! Thank you - that solves the riddle! We knew about the maids - and he and his wife advertised for places for them and the gardener when they moved into Brocton Golf Club a few years later. He was actually on the edges of the wealthy Todd-Pilkington families (steel and tiles). Goodness knows why Yorkshire ...