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William John, Fireman at Lan Colliery 1875
« on: Tuesday 01 April 25 15:29 BST (UK) »
From time to time, researchers have helped me track the people involved in the 1875 Lan Colliery Disaster. While I have also found a lot of information, I cannot trace WILLIAM JOHN. The only sound fact I have is that he was fireman at the time of the Lan disaster and faced heavy questioning at the Inquest, which  I have researched in detail from archive papers.

Can anyone trace William John with so little information?  You all have infinite skills that I don't have. He could have lived in Gwaelod  y Garth - Lower Pentyrch, Pentyrch,Taffs Well or Tongwnlais. Please help if you can.

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Re: William John, Fireman at Lan Colliery 1875
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 01 April 25 15:45 BST (UK) »
1881 Troed Rhiw Cilog, Pentyrch, Cardiff
RG11
Piece  5275
Folio 77
Page 13
William John   41   occ   Fireman   bn Pentyrch, Glamorganshire, Wales
Ann   John   Wife   39   bn   Pentyrch, Glamorganshire, Wales
Rachel Miles   Niece 12   bn    Pentyrch, Glamorganshire, Wales

He was a Coal Miner in 1871

RG10
Piece  5355
Folio 7
Page 8
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Re: William John, Fireman at Lan Colliery 1875
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 01 April 25 17:07 BST (UK) »
At the inquest William John, fireman, Llan declared he had "been fireman there between three or four years, since the colliery began to send up coal". As the poster has noted, the papers include nowt to help identify which William John.

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Re: William John, Fireman at Lan Colliery 1875
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 01 April 25 17:11 BST (UK) »
Perhaps I should have mentioned that was the only William John occ Fireman that came up in Cardiff reg district in 1881 census
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Re: William John, Fireman at Lan Colliery 1875
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 01 April 25 17:19 BST (UK) »
I thought I spotted 2 in '81 who appeared in the right age bracket (out of 5) - need to revisit"

Here's William a few months later
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3386960/3386962/5/william%2BOR%2Bjohn

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Re: William John, Fireman at Lan Colliery 1875
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 01 April 25 17:21 BST (UK) »
Info only re 1881 census

MILES, RACHEL       mmn EDWARDS 
GRO Reference: 1869  M Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 231


Marriages Jun 1867   )

Edwards    Ann        Cardiff    11a   361    
JOHN    William        Cardiff    11a   361

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Re: William John, Fireman at Lan Colliery 1875
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 01 April 25 17:38 BST (UK) »
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Piece   4418
Folio   4
Page number   1

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Re: William John, Fireman at Lan Colliery 1875
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 01 April 25 21:15 BST (UK) »
Thank you to all of you sending me information. I would love to find even more about this man who was so heavily cross examined at the Inquest.  Maybe back to the archive papers. the info you have sent will help that search. Grateful. Nx  :)