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Offline Stanwix England

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Cooper or Corker?
« on: Tuesday 01 April 25 17:38 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone,

I’m looking at a Frederick Hibbard, born approx 1870. (see below for note on marriage age)

Name issue

I have a marriage record for him, 28 September 1890, in Sheffield, where he married an Anne Elizabeth Garfitt.

I’m trying to work out his fathers name. Is it Charles Cooper Hibbard, or Corker or something else?

I can’t find a record for a Charles Cooper, or Corker Hibbard which doesn’t help.

Secondly, I believe that the age at marriage on this record is incorrect. Every other record I have for Frederick has him being born about 1870, including subsequent census records including 1939. Which makes me wonder if the father’s middle name is an error too.

Here are the details for the subsequent records I have for Frederick.

1891 Census - Age 20 (1870 birth date)

Sub registration district   North Sheffield
ED, Institution or Vessel   29
Neighbors   View others on page
Piece   3821
Folio   18

1901 Census - Age 30 (1870 birth date)

Sub-registration district   Ecclesall Bierlow
ED, institution, or vessel   49
Neighbors   View others on page
Piece   4354
Folio   141
Page number   40
Household schedule number   25

1911 Census - Age 40

Country   England
Street Address   380 Sharrow Vale Rd
Marital Status   Married
Occupation   Eldur & Gilder
Registration District Number   509
Sub-registration district   Ecclesall South
ED, institution, or vessel   12
Piece   27790


1921 Census - Age 51

Enumeration District Name   Sheffield Cb
Enumeration District   5
Schedule   14
Schedule Type Code   E

1939 - Birthdate of June 1870

Enumeration District   Ncco
Borough   Blackpool
Registration District   477-1.
Inferred Spouse   Ann E Hibbard

Here are the census records that I believe date from before his marriage and show him with his family

On both of these, his ‘father’ is just Charles Hibbard, no mention of another name. But the professions line up.

1871 - Age nine months

Sub-registration district   South Sheffield
ED, institution, or vessel   16
Household schedule number   110
Piece   4686
Folio   86
Page number   18

1881 - Age 10

Registration District   Ecclesall Bierlow
ED, institution, or vessel   40
Neighbors   View others on page
Piece   4636
Folio   134
Page number   24
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Re: Cooper or Corker?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 01 April 25 18:16 BST (UK) »
Well it looks like 'Cooper' - but both Charles's baptism and HIS marriage (parish register) - are on line and Charles has no middle name on either - so I can't understand why this has suddenly appeared on Frederick's marriage.
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Re: Cooper or Corker?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 01 April 25 18:21 BST (UK) »
Charles Hibbard married Sarah Antcliffe in 1866

Frederick Hibbert b 1870 - mmn Antclffe
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Re: Cooper or Corker?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 01 April 25 18:24 BST (UK) »
I can’t see a Sheffield birth for Charles Hibbard but there is a Charles Cooper birth in 1838 with mother, Dyson.
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Re: Cooper or Corker?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 01 April 25 18:39 BST (UK) »
Heywood - the baptism I found for a Charles Hibbard gives him a birth date of 18th May 1837 - so before Civil Registration.

Baptism was in August, Sheffield Cathedral (if it's the right person). Father was John, mother Sarah.
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Re: Cooper or Corker?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 01 April 25 18:46 BST (UK) »
Death of Sarah, widow of the late Charles Cooper Hibbard, etcher.

29 April 1919: Sheffield Daily Telegraph

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Re: Cooper or Corker?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 01 April 25 18:48 BST (UK) »
If the 1871 census I am looking at is the right one then in 1861 Charles Hibbard is married to an Elizabeth Fearn. 2 children born who appear in 1871

HIBBERD, JOHN  WILLIAM     FEARN 
GRO Reference: 1857  S Quarter in SHEFFIELD  Volume 09C  Page 311

HIBBERT, SARAH  JANE     FEARN 
GRO Reference: 1859  D Quarter in SHEFFIELD  Volume 09C  Page 291

By 1871 Charles is with a Sarah.

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HIBBERT, FREDERICK       mmn ANTCLIFFE 
GRO Reference: 1870  S Quarter in SHEFFIELD  Volume 09C  Page 368

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Re: Cooper or Corker?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 01 April 25 18:48 BST (UK) »
Heywood - the baptism I found for a Charles Hibbard gives him a birth date of 18th May 1837 - so before Civil Registration.

Baptism was in August, Sheffield Cathedral (if it's the right person). Father was John, mother Sarah.

Sorry - misread the post
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 01 April 25 18:53 BST (UK) »
Marriages Sep 1866   
ANTCLIFF    Sarah        Sheffield    9c   529    
BARLOW    Joseph A        Sheffield    9c   529    
HIBBARD    Charles        Sheffield    9c   529    
ROSS    Margaret        Sheffield    9c   529    

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