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Re: Can anyone tell me what this Scottish town is please
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 06 April 25 22:31 BST (UK) »
You'll get there  ;D
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Re: Can anyone tell me what this Scottish town is please
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 06 April 25 22:53 BST (UK) »
His death record on FreeBMD says he was 70 in Sep 1891. So... DOB 1812 or 1821?


One possible chistening record - different parish

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYZN-9RD


Vital • Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950


Name   McIntyre
Sex   Male
Father's Name   Alexander McIntyre
Father's Sex   Male
Event Type   Christening
Event Date   17 Feb 1820
Event Place   Kilmallie, Argyll, Scotland, United Kingdom


"Kilmallie Parish originally extended from Loch Arkaig to Kinlochleven and was understood to be the largest geographical parish in Scotland.(sixty miles in length and thirty miles in extreme breadth), partly in the County of Inverness and county of Argyll.


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Re: Can anyone tell me what this Scottish town is please
« Reply #29 on: Monday 07 April 25 00:49 BST (UK) »
Another possible sons of the couple (not found in the Scotlands People dadabase), Robert McIntyre who emigrated to Canada, and Hugh McIntyre.

http://www.mullgenealogy.co.uk/mullsearchwb_m.asp?indv_no=33049


No idea if it's his father...

Reverend Alexander McIntyre (Coll) and Mr. J. McDonald (Ulva) - 1868-1878

https://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/digital-volumes/ordnance-survey-name-books/argyll-os-name-books-1868-1878/argyll-volume-73/26
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Re: Can anyone tell me what this Scottish town is please
« Reply #30 on: Monday 07 April 25 01:08 BST (UK) »
Children of Neil McIntyre and Mary Holmes
Follow a traditional Scottish naming pattern
•   Alexander (named after Father’s father)
•   Benjamin (named after Mother’s father)
•   Dorothy (named after Father’s mother)
•   Sarah
•   Mary Eleanor (named after mother’s mother)
•   John
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)


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Re: Can anyone tell me what this Scottish town is please
« Reply #31 on: Monday 07 April 25 01:11 BST (UK) »
Children baptised of Alexander McIntyre and Dorothy (McDonald surname only recorded once)
Kilninian and Kilmore
•   Margaret 1799
•   John 1803
•   James 1805
     GAP in records – missing baptisms
•   Flory 1811
•   Mary 1815
     GAP in records – missing baptisms Robert abt 1817, Neil abt 1821, Alexander & Merion
•   Anne (Nancy) 1825

It is quite common for parish records to be incomplete – never recorded or records lost.

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1841 Census: ULVA      Ardskipinish Gometra
(Ardskipinish is a place on the island of Gometra, a small island in the Inner Hebrides of Scotland, located west of Ulva)
MACINTYRE   Robert   M   25   Crofter   born Argyllshire
MACINTYRE   Dorothy   F   60      born  Out of County
MACINTYRE   Mary   F   20   Female Servant   born Argyllshire
MACINTYRE   Merron   F   15      born Argyllshire
MACINTYRE   Nancy   F   14      born Argyllshire
MACINTYRE   John   M   9      born Out of County
MACINNES   Alexander   M   15   Agricultural Labourer   born Argyllshire


It looks as if the father Alexander is deceased by 1841 census, but that detail not included on Neil's marriage.

1851 census Gribun, Mull - Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon
Dorothy MacIntyre 72 born Ross  - Tenant 500 Arable 20 Ac Hill Pasture
Robert MacIntyre 34 son born Ulva
Cathrine MacIntyre 23 daughter-in-law born Kilninian
Dorothy MacIntyre 2 grand-daughter born Gribun
Alexander MacIntyre 1 mth grand-son born Gribun



A number of the children, including the sons Alexander and Robert, and daughter Flora, went to Canada. All three appear to end up in the same Grey County, Ontario - surely not a coincidence. It is possible they travelled together, or soon after each other,  arriving in Canada between 1852 and 1855. Flora died there in 1855.

Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Can anyone tell me what this Scottish town is please
« Reply #32 on: Monday 07 April 25 01:22 BST (UK) »
I'm not sure Alexander was Neil's brother. According to some census records in England (still waiting for Smudger's confirmation) his place of birth shows as Glasgow, Lanark.
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Re: Can anyone tell me what this Scottish town is please
« Reply #33 on: Monday 07 April 25 02:04 BST (UK) »
I'm not sure Alexander was Neil's brother. According to some census records in England (still waiting for Smudger's confirmation) his place of birth shows as Glasgow, Lanark.

Alexander McIntyre (Farmer)
His marriage as a widower in 1873 Grey, Ontario, names his parents as Alexander and Dorothea.

1861 Canada census
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4391552_00016.pdf

1871 Canada census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D1W9-6J4?view=index&action=view&cc=1554429&lang=en

1881 Canada census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MVF5-4HR?lang=en


1871 Canada Census for Robert McIntyre and family
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M47X-99X?lang=en
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Can anyone tell me what this Scottish town is please
« Reply #34 on: Monday 07 April 25 02:08 BST (UK) »
According to Smudgers...

" I also think that he had a brother called Alexander. I can't be 100% but on 1841 census Neil is living in what looks like a hostel in church street Sunderland maybe he had just arrived. There is also an Alexander Mcintyre living there. a few days before Neil Joins the local police force, Alexander Joins, I think that they must be brothers but could be cousins."
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Re: Can anyone tell me what this Scottish town is please
« Reply #35 on: Monday 07 April 25 02:10 BST (UK) »
Yes PatLac - I have read the thread.  :) I have seen the census records.
Alexander McIntyre is an extremely common Scottish name.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)