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Offline Lewis21

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Parish in Hampshire
« on: Saturday 19 April 25 17:33 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

Having some trouble deciphering what the clerk was trying to write here - specifically the parish in Hampshire that George Bone is from. The first letter looks a lot like the 'J' in 'July' but there don't appear to be any parishes in Hampshire starting with that letter.

His next son's baptism in 1812 has him as being a native of Stokesbay Parish, which I assume is Stokes Bay in the parish of Alverstoke, but this doesn't bear any relation to the above word.

Thanks,

Lewis
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Re: Parish in Hampshire
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 19 April 25 17:37 BST (UK) »
Smannel(l) - does that make any sense location wise?
Nicoll, Small - Scotland Dennis - Lincolnshire, Baldwin - Notts. Gordon, Fletcher Deeside

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Re: Parish in Hampshire
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 April 25 20:16 BST (UK) »
There are two clear examples of S - in Son (line 1) and St (line 6), which don't match the alleged parish name.

I agree with Lewis that the letter appears to be J.

Were J and I still interchangeable this late?

Is the second letter possibly s?  Perhaps Ismane?

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Re: Parish in Hampshire
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 April 25 20:20 BST (UK) »
The mother's parish is St Nicholas, Durham. ;)
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Re: Parish in Hampshire
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 April 25 01:25 BST (UK) »
On George’s discharge from Artillery, his papers state that he was born in Stokes Bay, Hants.

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Re: Parish in Hampshire
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 20 April 25 02:51 BST (UK) »
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Parish in Hampshire
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 20 April 25 03:14 BST (UK) »
You haven't given a date or place for this baptism, but I suspect it is the one March 4th 1809 at Newcastle upon Tyne, as his wife is given as Mary Lumley of Durham.

Their marriage 21st July 1806 at St Nicholas Durham.

This is some 350 miles away from Hampshire.
No doubt the vicar had never heard of this place, and it was his attempt to try and spell what he heard.
There's a list of Hampshire parishes on wikipedia - none of which look anything like what is written in the baptism entry you have posted.
Have you considered it amy be a capital E? I have seen Es written curved like this, (both myself and an unrelated friend do this), although I'm not sure about the upward stroke that follows it if this was the case.
The nearest I could find in the parish lsiting was East Meon - perhpas the vicar's attempt of 'Esmane' was this. Hampshire and Northumberland dialects would have been very, very different at this time.

Can you see anywhere in this register written by the same person where there is a capital E?
These registers are not viewable on familysearch.
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Parish in Hampshire
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 20 April 25 03:19 BST (UK) »
Goldie if this suggestion

The nearest I could find in the parish lsiting was East Meon - perhpas the vicar's attempt of 'Esmane' was this.

is correct, (well even if it is not correct also)  it is inspired and the result of much sounding out I suspect.   ;D

Also well done the vicar!

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Re: Parish in Hampshire
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 20 April 25 03:21 BST (UK) »
Goldie if this suggestion

The nearest I could find in the parish lsiting was East Meon - perhpas the vicar's attempt of 'Esmane' was this.

is correct, (well even if it is not correct also)  it is inspired and the result of much sounding out I suspect.   ;D

Also well done the vicar!

 ;D ;D
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs