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Unable to find death date
« on: Saturday 26 April 25 20:13 BST (UK) »
I'm new to the the forum and new to ancestry etc. I'm finding it very interesting also confusing! I have a lot to learn! I'm definitely finding the Irish side of my family more challenging to research.
I'm specifically trying to find a death date for my great grandfather (Bernard Naan) who was was born 1868. From county Fermanagh, Altnaponer. (Also lived in Clones and Brookboro I believe) I have found the Irish genealogy website very useful. I have found marriage documentation to my great grandmother (Catherine Lynch) although Bernard Naans age is a couple of years off on this, I believe this is an error.
Catherine Lynch died a few days after child birth to my Grandfather in 1911 and Bernard Naan remarried a Mariane McQuaid in 1921. I can't seem to find any record of what happened to Bernard or Marianne, I have looked on ancestry, the Irish genealogy website, it's like they just disappeared. My grandfather died in the 50s when my dad was a baby so unable to ask relatives.
Does anyone know where else I can look?
Thanks I'm advance 🤞🏻

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Re: Unable to find death date
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 26 April 25 20:49 BST (UK) »
Irish Genealogy has no records for the counties that became Northern Ireland from 1922, you need GRO of Northern Ireland.
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/search-gronis-online-records

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Re: Unable to find death date
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 26 April 25 20:51 BST (UK) »
The records on Irish Genealogy only go up to 1921 for N.I. counties- after that date you need to use GRONI's website-
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/

Fermanagh Herald, 13 Oct.1906: ... for Mr. James Naan. The Farm contains 48 statute acres or thereabouts, held as a judicial tenancy under Sir Douglas Brooke, Bart., subject to the yearly rent of £5 _s _. This valuable farm, which was formerly occupied by Mr. Bernard Naan, is well situated ...

No N.I. deaths for a Bernard Naan from 1922-1969.
There is this one who MIGHT be his wife-
D/1924/151/1019/11/170   Mary   Naan   6th March 1924   age 35      Female   Lisnaskea
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Re: Unable to find death date
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 26 April 25 21:45 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for your replies and that information.
I will use that website for post 1922 NI searches going forward.

I also forget that sometimes Names are sometimes documented slightly different.

Strange that there doesn't seem to be any death record of Bernard still, I'm guessing it's possible he was living elsewhere at the time... I will try and look into it.

Thanks again 👍🏻


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Re: Unable to find death date
« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 10:35 »
Is this him in 1901 Census ???

Name   Bernard Naan
Sex   Male
Age   35
Birth Year (Estimated)   1866
Birthplace   Fermanagh
Marital Status   Single
Relationship to Head of Household   Son
Event Type   Census
Event Date   1901
Event Place   Altnaponer, County Fermanagh, Ireland
Household Identifier   11

Parents and Siblings
Ann Naan
Mother F 67 Fermanagh
Patrick Naan
Father M 73 Fermanagh
Susanna Naan
Sister F 30 Fermanagh
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Re: Unable to find death date
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 10:51 »
I searched for something about his death in newspapers, but drew a blank. I did however find this which may be of interest; it mentions Brooksborough, so possibly the correct Bernard Naan?

13 October 1906: Fermanagh Herald
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Re: Unable to find death date
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 11:03 »

Name   Bernard Naan
Sex   Male
Age   35
Birth Year (Estimated)   1866
Birthplace   Fermanagh
Marital Status   Single
Relationship to Head of Household   Son
Event Type   Census
Event Date   1901
Event Place   Altnaponer, County Fermanagh, Ireland
Household Identifier   11

Parents and Siblings
Ann Naan
Mother F 67 Fermanagh
Patrick Naan
Father M 73 Fermanagh
Susanna Naan
Sister F 30 Fermanagh


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https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000781175/


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Re: Unable to find death date
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 11:17 »
Yes I believe that is the correct Bernard Nann in the 1901 census, he was married shortly after this. Susanna Naan was his half sister and I am a DNA match to someone who descends from her. It's always confused me because on his marriage documentation it says he was 30 when married however...

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Re: Unable to find death date
« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 11:25 »
With regards to the newspaper article. I believe it could be, his grandfather was called James Naan but I believe he had passed away by 1906. It doesn't help however that everyone seems to share the same names within the family! He was also still married to Catherine Lynch at that point until her death in 1911