Fairleigh Sussex

[Ewan]

Hi Andrea

I'll have a google a bit later, but for the time being here is the
information that I have from the 1851.

Upper Gough St 42 Birmingham
Henry Cox 36 Waggoner (what is that) Fairleigh Sussex
Esther Cox 39 Derbyshire
Sarah A daur 9 Birmingham
Henry Son 13        "
William son 11       "
John son 7             "
George son 4         "

Thanks again
Ewan

[sillgen]

I would assume that a waggoner drove a waggon - deliveries?    He may have owned it himself or worked for a company.
In 1861 Henry is not with them though Esther is not shown as widowed. It is mistranscribed as Cove
RG9 2151 F74 p23 No 2 Court 1 House, Birmingham
Esther Cox Hd mar 48 b Derbyshire
William son unm 18 Jeweller
John so unm 15 Pearl Cutter?  (Not very clear)
George so unm 12 jeweller all born Birmingham

Andrea

[Ewan]

Hello Andrea

Tried to google Fairleigh Sussex , but couldn't quite get it right, kept
coming up with information but not anything to do with near Winchelsea
Sussex.  Same with the genuki website, bit of a novice at this what
exactly am I supposed to be pressing! (oh help)

I wonder where he was in 1861 though, if Esther was not shown as
a widow.

Ewan

[sillgen]

He may have died and she just still said she was married.    Have you looked for his death?
Andrea

[Ewan]

Hello Andrea

Still trying to google to find Farileigh in Sussex near Winchelsea.
You say that it does come up.  Can you give me step by step
instructions on how to do this please.

If you google "Fairleigh Sussex" it does come up with a Fairleigh near Winchelsea. Possible? Check it on www.genuki.com


Thanks
Ewan

[Stovepipe]

Searching for Fairleigh Sussex at Google returns this page:

http://www.creditonparishchurch.org.uk/Sully.html

The page includes this paragraph:
In 1350 Sir John was present at the sea battle of Winchelsea, another victory. In this engagement English ships forced a fleet of Spanish ships loaded with treasure from the French port of Sluys across the channel into Rye Bay (off Dungeness), where they were captured. The battle got its name from the fact that it was watched by Edward III's wife, Queen Phillipa, from what is now called the "Look-Out", on the sea cliffs at Fairleigh, near Winchelsea (Sussex).

I can't help thinking that the above mention of Fairleigh is a mistake for Fairlight (which has cliffs and is near Winchelsea).  Or perhaps Fairleigh is an old form of the name Fairlight?

The account is confused, but Winchelsea does claim to be the location of the Look Out:

http://www.tfd.co.uk/winchelseatown/tt2.html

I don't know of any part of Winchelsea called Fairleigh.  It's possible it's the name of a street or building in the town, but if so, it's strange that the person gave such a precise answer to the enumerator's question in 1851.  Winchelsea would have been close enough, I would have thought.

So, I think we're no closer - either Sussex is a mistake, and it's really Fairleigh in Surrey, or it's Fairlight in Sussex.  Is it possible to post part of the page image for us to examine the handwriting?

Stovepipe

[Ewan]

Hello stovepipe

Thanks for getting me out of that mess with my no knowledge
of googling.

The 1851 census information was sent to me, so I don't have
the image to look at.

I do have the reference number if that's any help.

HO107/2052 folio 79 page 46
Upper Gough St 42 Birmingham

Ewan

[craigsams]

I have a map of Sussex by John Nordon from 1616.   Fairlight is there but is spelled Fayrleigh.  It is between Winchelsea and Hastings, i.e where Fairlight is today.  The cliffs of Fayrleigh/Fairlight were high enough to position cannon to defend the coastline - one high point is called 'Battery Hill' because a 'battery' in those days was a number of cannons from which you could 'batter' enemy ships

[AlanBoyd]

From Sussex Notes and Queries 1928 volume 2 p65