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Chelsea Pensioners?
« on: Thursday 06 October 05 18:02 BST (UK) »
Hello,
Can anyone please advise me where to look for records of Chelsea Penioners.

I am searching for William Mobberley born about 1780.

I have a copy of 1851 census for Lye worcestershire and on that it says.
William Mobberley 71 Chelsea Pensioner Ryston Near Blind.
I beleive William was in the 34th Foot Regiment and has a daughter Maria born in East Indies in about 1819. His wife Eleanor was from Ireland.

On 1841 census William's occupation is Nailor born Lye Worcestershire, his wife is listed as Foreign so is Maria.
On 1851 he is living with Ellen born Ireland and 2 Grandchildren George Griffiths 11 and Honor 6 both born Lye.
On 1861 he is listed as pensioner born Middlesex, Ellen born Ireland (Keelwell?).
On 1871 census i found George and his mother was Fanny Griffiths born east Indies (British Subject).

I am really interested  to find out more about William.
Can anyone help or advise where to look.

Thank you
Kaye


 
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Re: Chelsea Pensioners?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 06 October 05 18:15 BST (UK) »
Chelsea Pensioners came in two catagories, in-pensioners and out-pensioners.

The in-pensioners live in Chelsea Hospital, the out-pensioner lived at home or with relatives but still received an army pension.

I hear the best source for information is from the Regiment in which he served.

Mike
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Re: Chelsea Pensioners?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 06 October 05 18:25 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Thank you for the quick response.
Where would i find info on his Regiment? If it's not asking too much.
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Re: Chelsea Pensioners?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 06 October 05 18:46 BST (UK) »
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~clday/34foot.htm
http://www.fifedrum.org/crfd/images/D34.htm


Theres a couple of links but I cannot be sure they are exactly what you need.

Does "Cumberland" come into your family tree somewhere?

I just did a Google search and came up with lost of info.


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Re: Chelsea Pensioners?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 06 October 05 18:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks Mike.
As far as i know none of my family came from Cumberland, I thought they all came from Worcestershire.
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Re: Chelsea Pensioners?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 06 October 05 19:12 BST (UK) »
Chelsea Hospital records, Army service records and pension records for this period are held by the National Archive, London. The Regiments (such as they exist today) will have virtually nothing.

The regiment that he served in does not mean that he had any previous connection with its county designation.

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Re: Chelsea Pensioners?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 06 October 05 20:34 BST (UK) »
Hello Steve,
Thank you for the information.
Would The National archives have just his service record or would they have info on his family aswell?
Sorry to be a pest.
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Re: Chelsea Pensioners?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 06 October 05 22:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Kaye,

I have one Chelsea (out)Pensioner in my tree - Richard BALFOUR who was in the Royal Scots/1st Regiment of Foot, and was discharged on medical grounds in 1816 (after fighting at Waterloo).  The only thing I've ever found, not to diminish its importance at all, was his discharge paper, a double-sided document giving details of the length of his service, a description of Richard's physical appearance, and best of all two "X"s where Richard "signed" his papers. 

There was nothing about his family, but then again he was only 21 when discharged, so I doubt he had any, having been an army man for nearly 6 years.

Prue