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O'Toole Antrim B ABT. 1765 D ABT 1818 (Antrim) "So I have had a hint, which suggests a Baptism of 19 Mar 1797 - Armagh, Ireland"


When he was 32??

A very good point! Sorry I must have been very tired when I posted this. Apologies.

In which case, all we know is that the dad was from Ireland.The mother was most likely living in england in Devon when John was born.

Hi Everyone,

I have previously posted on here with respect to:

James Frederick Toole

"James Frederick Toole was born on 9 January 1796 in Aldgate, Middlesex, the son of Mr. Toole. He married Elizabeth Bertout on 6 September 1818 in Newington, Surrey. They had six children in 10 years. He died on 31 January 1847 at the age of 51, and was buried in Nunhead, Surrey"

and

John Toole

John Toole was born in 1801 in Middlesex, the son of Mr. Toole. He married Ann Trist on 6 July 1824 in his hometown. They had one child during their marriage. He died on 5 March 1838 in London, at the age of 37, and was buried in England.

But we have no idea as to their parents.

Until now it was believed that their parents where from Middlesex / London.

However the Son on J F Toole was a famous actor called John Lawrence Toole.

"When John Lawrence Toole was born on 12 March 1830 in London, his father, James, was 34 and his mother, Elizabeth, was 36. He married Susan Caslake on 27 April 1854 in London, London. They had two children during their marriage. He died on 30 July 1906 in London, London, having lived a long life of 76 years, and was buried in Kensal Green, Middlesex."

Now having contacted the Masonic Lodges, it shows that his father or grandfather was originally from Ireland.

Which means that James Frederick Toole could have originally been born in Ireland, but it is almost certain that his brother was born in England.

There are multiple sources stating the irish connection.

Some help would be greatly appreciated.

This is the old London/Middlesex thread which is now discounted, due to multiple sources confirming an Irish origin.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=777735.msg6316426#msg6316426

There is a suggestion that they could have come from Antrim, but this is purely guessing.

A potential is John Toole and Mary Fearny  but i cannot see a mention of John toole, only James Toole

I have just looked back and the place of birth for James is wrong. The DOB is correct (8 sources), but POB was from a previous line.

Quote from: rosie99 on Friday 25 August 17 15:08 BST (UK)

Sorry, it is the place of birth I was querying.

Sorry my mistake, again from census records. I can screenshot the part of the document that states the places of birth if that would be useful? (not the full document)

My mistake, the DOB comes from the census, the place of birth is from a hint. But the DOB has been confirmed by around 8 sources.

So the POB maybe wrong for J F Toole

Hey,

Their DOBs come from census records.

Please find attached a screenshot of their profile pages. (no copies of documents are visible)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1utywknd68tnli4/James%20Frederick%20Toole%20%20%20Facts.png?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/puzbqimijmjprpb/John%20Toole%20%20%20Facts.png?dl=0