POWELL & GREGORY families

[RebeccaNZ]

Hi,
 
I am trying to find the biological parents of my great grandmother Alice Maude GREGORY born 1889/1890 somewhere in Glamorgan.
 
In 1891 census she is living with possibly her aunt and uncle Mary (nee Powell)  and Robert Gregory.
Mary and Robert Gregory are living in Graisyn, Helfa Houses, Glystaff, Glamorgan, with their nephews Robert Henry COLLINS, Albert GREGORY and niece Alice Maude POWELL (aged 2 b. Neath).
 
In 1901 census the family are living in Pontypridd and Alice Maude's last name has changed to GREGORY and she is listed as their daughter. Alice's birth place is listed as Pontypridd.
 
Mary GREGORY (nee POWELL) had three siblings Philip POWELL, Elizabeth (married a COLLINS) and half sister Amelia (married a COUSINS).
 
I am trying to figure out where Alice Maude came from and who her real parents are. If any one has any information about this family or might be able to offer me some advice about what to do next I would really appreciate it.
 
Rebecca

[winston]

Hi


Just curious.  What name does Alice give on her marriage cert for her father?


Wendy

[winston]

Hi


Have you tried to look for and obtain her birth cert that matches with known location of birth and year?


I guess you have but worth asking in case you haven't ventured in that direction.


Wendy

[RebeccaNZ]

Her father's name on marriage cert is Robert Gregory - adopted father.

Yes, I've looked at birth certificates for her and there are a few that are possible around.

She was either born Neath or Pontypridd it says on the 1891 and 1901 census'. She was probably born Dec. 1889 but it could be 1890.

It's hard because I don't really know what I'm looking for on the birth certificates - probably someone related to the Powell family.

Were illigetimate birth's recorded back then?

[Jamjar]

Did Alice have children?

If so, what were their names?

Jamjar

[Jamjar]

Here's the family on the 1881 census.

Not sure how it will help, but it gives more names to work around.

 Robert Albert GREGORY  32  Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales       
 Mary GREGORY  28   Merthyr, Glamorgan, Wales            
 Edward Richard EVANS Brother-In-Law 11 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales          
 Maria Jane EVANS  Sister-In-Law 11 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales           
 Elizabeth COLLINS Sister-In-Law Married 22      Newport, Monmouth, England      
 Elizabeth Ann COLLINS Niece 6  Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales     
 Robert Henry COLLINS Nephew 2  Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales            

Dwelling: 47 Tramroad Side
Census Place:    Llantwit Vairdre, Glamorgan, Wales

Jamjar
    

[Jamjar]

It only leaves her to be the daughter of Philip Powell, does it not?

Do you know who he married?

Jamjar

[Jamjar]

Her birth cert I think:

September 1889

Alice Maud Powell  Pontypridd    11a   452   

Found on FreeBMD

Jamjar

[RebeccaNZ]

Hi,

Philip Powell married Mary Jane Vizard ... yes could be his child but he was living in Cogan and Penarth 1881 - 1891 - so if it is his child she would have been born there.

I was wondering if she was an illegitimate child to Philip ....

Amelia, Philip and Elizabeth Powell were all married early/mid 1880's - before Alice Maud was born so I don't think that she was Amelia or Elizabeth's daughter.

She was possibly an illigetimate daughter to Maria Evan's -  she would have been 17/18 around 1889/1890 so perhaps she had a child young/ out of wedlock and the child went to live with Gregory's. That still doesn't explain why her last name is Powell 1891 census.

Alice had 4 children - Ruby, Alice, Blodwen and Douglas