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Occupation Interests / Re: Edge tool maker
« on: Monday 11 November 19 12:21 GMT (UK)  »
A large 18th/19th century branch of my family lived and worked in Somerset. Most of them lived in or close to Great Elm, a rural village near Frome and the Fussells Ironworks at Mells. The majority were edge tool makers, clustered together in cottage accommodation, probably supplying the local agricultural community with digging and cutting equipment. I don't know if there was a central forge or if each family had its own forge. The family name was variously Gawen, Gawn, Gowen or (finally) Gowan. There is a possibility that they originated in Ireland, as my mother said that idea ran in the family, and my DNA results do confirm that I have some Irish roots. But I haven't managed to research that far back! PAFC.

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Australia / Re: Owen Robert Colverd
« on: Wednesday 06 November 19 07:04 GMT (UK)  »
It's a while since I visited here; been bust transcribing Dad's memoir, which I intend to publish - it reads very well! Looking again at Marjorie and her extra-marital liaisons I thought I'd try once more to find the Jumbo Mine. This morning I had success, finding an account of it here: http://www.rhodesianstudycircle.org.uk/category/explore/mines/page/5/
... but it appears that the Jumbo Gold Mining Company was liquidated in 1932! I suspect that this failure may have prompted Marjorie's flight - again - from Southern Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) and she traded on the glamour of the story when she returned to Sydney. The mine is still going strong, now as the Mazowe Gold Mine (see: http://metcorp.co.uk/operations/gold-fields-of-mazowe-ltd.aspx ) so it must have just been the company that went haywire, as it was actually a good time for the South African mines (ref: https://opendocs.ids.ac.uk/opendocs/handle/20.500.12413/7033 ).  Pam

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Hi Ros,
Thank you so very much for all these images of the Judd divorce papers - there are so many! Ive had a fascinating afternoon. Also of course for the pages from Owen Colverd's Will Book.
I have had no problem downloading.
Best regards, and thanks again for your extraordinary hard work and invaluable help,
Pam

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Hi Pam,
   I try to get to the NSW Archives office every 3 weeks.  While I'm there I photograph about 18-20 divorces or probates or deceased estate files  for rootschatters.

After I have photographed them I will pm you a link to the photographs.   They are viewable in any browser so you just have to click on the link I send you (and double click on  an image to see full screen).

   I expect to get to the Archives next week when I will photograph  images for you and Drop Bear and many others.

    If this is not convenient for you then you can request the NSW archives to copy them for you (and pay of course).  This will probably take another couple of months.

   Let me know if you want me to include your request in my list or whether you would rather ask the NSW Archives  to do so.

Ros

Hi Ros, Do please include my request in your list! I'm not in a rush - just new to how all this works.

Kind regards, Pam (PAFC)

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Hi Ros - I was notified this morning that you had a divorce document image for me, following the quoted enquiry.
Hi Ros,
Rootschat's 'Cupoflife' suggested that I ask you if you could supply me with an image of the divorce papers of Marjorie Emma Judd and Raymond Athelstane Judd #1032/1930.

This lady was my father's (Edwin Charles Simmonds) first wife - and it turns out the union (in London, UK) was probably bigamous. She seems to have led a string of besotted men a merry dance! She left him after only 7 months, and he had to wait seven years to marry my mother.

I'd be most grateful for any help you can give me.

But all there is, is a mass of stuff for someone called Drop Bear, not me at all. Has mine gone astray?

Pam (PAFC)

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Australia / Re: Owen Robert Colverd
« on: Wednesday 14 August 19 11:48 BST (UK)  »
What a family Dad got himself involved with! Poor Hal probably had no idea about Cuthbert the jockey (it was a whole extended family of jockeys) but we'll probably never know as everyone involved is long gone.

I'm sure Dad didn't know about Addie's colourful history; he was a complete innocent, having been brought up to the strictest of moral codes, believing the best of everyone, and a physically rather shy man always.

Whether or not your cynicism about the divorce process is justified (I know that stuff went on, in the UK as well), poor Garnet Haughton couldn't take it.

Pam

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Australia / Re: Owen Robert Colverd
« on: Wednesday 14 August 19 07:50 BST (UK)  »
JM - you don't have to be living with someone to continue a long-term liaison; I speak from (in my case happy) experience! Addie's affair with Garnet, according to her published letter, had been going on for years before she actually left Harold. She probably kept him on an emotional string while she was touring India and fell in with Fisher. Both mother and daughter used men atrociously, sometimes with tragic consequences as we have seen.

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Australia / Re: Owen Robert Colverd
« on: Wednesday 14 August 19 07:42 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for all this, JM! I'll check it out asap.
Meanwhile, Jm, Sue, Babs - I got to the interesting bit of Dad's memoir this morning. It's brief enough to post right here:

"It was while I was working in Kent that I learned from my mother that Addie’s daughter Marjorie had come to England and was staying with Uncle Frank and Auntie Vi at 129, Empress Avenue, Ilford (P: Yes!!!). Uncle Frank was Mother’s second eldest brother, and Autie Vi was the cousin of Addie Leigh who had been the means of my introduction to Marjorie on my arrival at Sydney.
I was very excited at the prospect of meeting again the girl I had fallen in love with seven years earlier and whom I had never expected to see again. I rang up my aunt and asked if I could call. The inevitable happened - I was back again deeply, madly in love with this beautiful creature.
Marjorie had come over to study at a well known theatrical dance tuition studio (P: the Imperial School of Teachers of Dancing, still going strong in 2019) and also to study singing. She had divorced her husband (P: not quite, Dad!) and was now following in the footsteps of her mother. She was very ambitious, but also very practical and was prepared to work hard at her chosen profession. She was extremely pretty - a true redhead, full of energy and very affectionate to those she liked. I spent every moment of my free time in her company; I used every argument in the book to convince her that she should marry me. And marry me she did; in a registry office, on June 1st 1933.
On the way back from the wedding I stopped the car outside the Times Furnishing showrooms in Oxford Street to arrange for the furniture to be delivered whilst we were away on honeymoon to the flat we had rented; but when we returned to the car, the two suitcases packed with all my wife’s belongings, including one very valuable piece of jewellery, had been stolen.
It was never recovered. Insurance paid about one-twentieth of the value.
The marriage was a disaster.
I could not give Marjorie any satisfaction. She was very over-sexed, and this acted on me like a deterrent, although I was otherwise quite normal. I became inhibited, and after seven months (P: maybe only four, Dad?) She went and bought a ticket to Cape Town, and left me. (P: No doubt to rejoin Mr. Wallace with his Rhodesian gold mine, whom she must already have met.)"

When she was at the Ilford address with my great-uncle she was *already listed as Mrs. Marjorie E Wallace.* The woman was totally irresponsible! How did Dad not know that? Why didn't anyone in the family realise what was going on? Baffling!
Pam

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Australia / Re: Owen Robert Colverd
« on: Wednesday 14 August 19 05:25 BST (UK)  »
Hi Sue - yes, I found the Ilford address in my searches, but can't link it to anyone else. However, it is in Essex, and very close to Romford where my father's family were concentrated, so it could well be a lodging address. I'm still hoping for a response from the Dance school. Nowhere, so far, is Marjorie identifying as Simmonds despite going through a marriage ceremony.
I have found a news clip in 'Truth' on Trove about Raymond Judd falling under a tram in 1942 and breaking several ribs - clearly an accident this time.
Pam

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