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Laois (Queens) / Did Ann Brennan really marry two Whelans ? or same person? please help

« on: Monday 03 August 20 17:50 BST (UK) »

Hi i hope ive posted in correct place, apologies if not, however i am looking for help with my Ann Brennan.

I have Ann Brennan b abt 1800 , married March 1823 Ballyadams to John Whelan witnessess are John and Micheal Brennan, i also have children :
Mary Whelan (my line) b 1st Nov 1825 -1883 ,informant on baptism Micheal Brennan and Elizabeth Murphey. married James Moss 13 Jan 1844 Tipperary they had children Henry Moss 1845 born Birr Barracks - they then moved to Leeds as James from Leeds, had John Josiah Moss 1847 and on census in 51 in Holbeck lived at Balloon Street. died 1883 have cert of death and will. birth for Henry

John Whelan baptism 3 mar 1829 Ballyadams appears on 51 census as PHELAN with sister Mary in Holbeck, marries Ellen Jepson in Sheffield 1854 has 6 children and dies in Sheffield.

Catharine Wheelan baptism 10 Dec 1831 Ballyadams
Judith Wheelan Baptism 8 May 1834 Ballyadams

then i have 2 DNA matches both 8cm over 1 segment suggesting half 5th cousin both of these people share same line
here is backwards Philip Arnold Lane (4th x1 removed), John Issac Lane (hald 3rd x2 removed ), Anna B Williams (half 2nd x3 removed) John L Williams (half 1st x 4 removed) Ann Bridget Whalen (half 4th Gt Aunt)
They have Ann Brennan married to James Whelan but John Whelan marriage entry that i have, Children John b 1831, Michael 1833, Ann Bridgett Whelan 1835-1868 (there line) James 1838
they have Ann baptism as 1st June 1800 Galway Death 4th Jan 1894 Pensylvania USA.
her parents as James Brenan and Margaret Maher

i dont have any birth details for Ann or John just from baptism of children.

any help greatly appriciated

Weenie

Shropshire / Am i barking up wrong tree for John Humphries dad and siblings?

« on: Thursday 30 July 20 13:59 BST (UK) »

Hi, So John Humphries i have been born Illegitimate to Margaret Humphreys. 15th July 1780 at St chads, Shrewsbury Shropshire, according to England Select births it says to William Roberts and Marg.

now i find a marriage for William and Mary Humphreys on 11 Oct 1794 pallots marriage but it says William a Widow, and MARY Humphries? at Almondy.

also looking at Marriages for William Roberts, i have come across these

Owen Roberts child to William and Margaret Roberts
Ann Roberts child to William and Margaret Roberts
Ann Roberts child to Willism and Margaret Roberts ( another one)
Mary Robert child to William and Margaret Roberts
Edward Roberts child to William and Margaret Roberts

could those be John Siblings?

then i find marriage William Roberts to Mary Haddocks 30/4/1793 in Almondy could this be the his first marriage, and then the transcript should be Margaret in 1794 not Mary?

Then i find Select burials in 1820 William Roberts in Almondy

thankyou Weenie

Shropshire / Ann Barker or Ann Bennet ?? help needed please

« on: Monday 27 July 20 20:07 BST (UK) »

hi im trying to find the Ann married to John Humphries b 15th July 1780 Madeley, Shropshire, his wife Ann could be Ann Barker marriage 21 Oct 1822 , there children i have are Emma , Elizabeth, Mary Ann, Edmund, Sarah and Thomas. the reason i feel its Ann Barker and not Bennett is because ,there 3rd daughter Mary Ann, her son, John Humphries (grandson to John and Ann) has a lodger living with him in 1881 census a Thomas Barker aged 22 could this possibly be a relative of Ann Barker?.
other people have however Ann Bennett on there trees

i have Ann as b1795 d 1863 John as date of death as 9th July 1838
John was illigitimate, there daughter Mary Ann had her son John Illigitimate too, it tends to be a trend on this branches
any help greatly appriciated

Yorkshire (West Riding) / William Woods parents marriage would you say is correct?

« on: Tuesday 18 February 20 18:33 GMT (UK) »

Hi, Sorry me again, going back to William Wood, im now wondering if i have the correct parents/parents marriage for him?
Rebecca, b1765 Yorkshire as of 1841 census, she is with son William at the Talbot inn Bradford, then dies 1843 leaving the Inn to son William.
ive traced the Talbot inn in newspapers, and see that John Wood was owner between 1786 and 1791 due to newspaper articles, John also had the Kings Arms.
John dies in 1815,
i found a marriage of John Wood to Rebecca Oxley at Leeds Parish Church 3 April 1788, both say of this parish ? John a Waiter.

now 2 newspapers have her announcements saying in 1813 she has been Innkeeper for up than 26 years, takign it to 1786/7 taking over the Talbot , then the one passing it to son William saying for more than 50 years taking it 1793 of first in Talbot Inn.

there children are as follows,
Mary b 1789 Bradford dad victueller
William b1790 Bradford dad victueller (he married Leeds Parish Church - but lived in Leeds and Bradford- his kids were at Wortley Leeds)
Charles b1792 Bradford dad ??
Thomas b 1795 Bradford john & Rebecca Victueller (died 1814 notice in paper 3rd son of John Wood Talbot Inn)
Rebecca Bpt 5th March 1797 Bradford John & Rebecca Wood Innkeepers
James b5 oct 1797 bapt April 1798 Bradford John Innkeeper
Robert bapt dec 1798 Bradford John Innkeeper
Nicholas Bapt Jan 1798 on select, dies feb 1799
Ann Wood b1803 aprox no bapt found possible 1805 but says John Woolstapler? , - have some papers/ notes info etc. at my mums re her husband Thomas Hammond Bartholomew to do with Aire and Calder to go with our Darling (Mariners )and Ford (Earthenware )ancestors again with Aire and Calder plus death in paper states husband of Thomas and Daughter of Rebecca Wood Talbot Inn
Hannah bapt 1806 Bradford, John innkeeper

would you say Rebecca is Oxley and the Leeds marriage is correct?

many thanks
Weenie

Yorkshire (West Riding) / where are William Woods 2 wives!

« on: Saturday 25 January 20 23:16 GMT (UK) »

hi, i was wondering if anyone could help me try locate 2 wives please?

William Wood b Sept 1790 Bradford, to John Wood and Rebecca Oxley, they ran the Talbot inn Kirkgate.

William first wife was Jane Sandford b1st April 1781 Rothwell, they married Leeds parish church 1810, i seem to loose her after her childrens births which are 1815, 1816, 1818 all born Wortley , Leeds
William appears on the 1841 census with his mum at the Talbot Inn, Kirkgate in 1842 there daughter marries in Calverley, and says father Inn Keeper , Farsley.
in 1851 William is owner of Talbot Inn, as mother died, but with new wife, Margaret Elizabeth ?? b 1804 Pentoville, Middlesex...
in 1857 William dies, 115 North Parade, Bradford, Margaret Elizabeth Wood , Wife is informant.

cant find her either, the marriage to Margaret Elizabeth East in 1844 is not the correct marriage btw.

many thanks
Weenie

Denbighshire / who are Elizabeth Jones parents??

« on: Saturday 28 December 19 20:33 GMT (UK) »

Hi all, im at a bit of a loss, i have Elizabeth Jones b abt 1830 according to each census it states born :

1861 : Abenbury Vechan
1871 : Wrexham
1881 :Bersham
1891 : Bersham
1901 : Bersham
1911 : Holt.
i know Elizabeth partner is John Smith, - i cannot find marriage cert, the whitechurch 1856 is not theres!, they had children : Louisa 1862, Albert 1865, Arthur 1866, Adah 1870, Sarah Annie Elizabeth (why only her as long name, also my gt grandmother) 1872. all living in Abenbury Vechan

i believed that baptism b1830 at Bersham to Matthew Jones and Elizabeth Abrahams was Elizabeths parents , however im not so sure as i recieved a message re the parents, and there research takes it that her Elizabeth died young aged 38, and they have research that that Elizabeth father Matthew was church Elder and there son David became a surgeon - i had not even traced them , just the marriage of Matthew and Elizabeth.

am i barking up wrong tree or not, this person was adopted so cannot check DNA, however i have lots of Jones DNA connections but not common ancestors

many thanks
Weenie

Lancashire / help to find brothers please John n William Jones

« on: Tuesday 22 October 19 21:19 BST (UK) »

hi, i have John Jones b1865 Mold to parents Owen and Eleanor Jones. in 1891 he is in Walton on the Hill, living as boarder, Single Tram Conductor,
His mum was born Liverpool, but lived in Mold, but in 1901 is at Walton on Hill, as visitor, other occupants are Ann Hopper and Mercy Turner
in 1911 Eleanor is with her daughter Mary and son in law Walter Summersgill - the other sister Margaret married Walters brother Richard Summersgill - traced both sisters
there Brother William b1872 Mold is living with sister in Anfield on 1911 census smith striker, single. unknown after that.
there other brother is my gt grandfather Robert who moves to Leeds around 1909, ive traced him obvs to me

i think John may have married Elizabeth Ann Edmonds in 1899 in Anfield, but i cant trace further.

any help greatly appriciated
Weenie

Laois (Queens) / Ann Brennan married John Whelan, help with my Irish 4th gt grandparents please

« on: Tuesday 01 October 19 21:00 BST (UK) »

Hi, My 4th Gt grandparents are John Whelan and Ann Brennan, married 1st March 1824 Bally Adams, Laois im presuming possible witnessess been John and Micheal Brennan are possible brothers to Ann?

Ann and John Whelan had 4 children i know/find of :

Mary Whelan baptised 1 Nov 1825, informant 1 Michael Brennan informant 2 Elizabeth Murphy, married James Moss 13 Jan 1844 Tipperary, James was from Leeds England and stationed at Birr Barracks, died 1883 Leeds, blood poisoning, they had 2 children, Henry Moss b 1845 birr barracks, (my 2nd gt grandfather) John Josiah Moss b1848 Leeds.

John Whelan b 3 March 1829 Bally Adams he is living with sister Mary Moss nee whelan in 1851 Leeds, transcribed as Phelan. marries 1854 to Ellen Jepson Sheffield England. dies 1900 Sheffield.
has 6 children.

Catherine Whelan baptism 10 dec 1831 Bally Adams, unknown afterwards

Judith Whelan Baptised 8 May 1834 BallyAdams unknown afterwards.

could anyone help me trace my 4thgt grandparents please?

many thanks
weenie

Yorkshire (West Riding) / Lawrence Darnbrough lost 1922

« on: Tuesday 09 April 19 20:52 BST (UK) »

Hi all, i have Lawrence Darnbrough/Darnborough b 1st Sept 1886 Leeds to Joseph Henry Darnbrough and Mary Ann Osborne, 4th oldest of 9 children.
He married Minnie Peaker 2nd June 1913 Leeds, been in Army for 11 years from 1905 to dissertion in 1919, however he has been convicted numerous times for stealing, and been discharged from Army, he also goes by name Harry Harley with a birth of 1892.
He also was a bigamist and married Elizabeth Ann Boyle in 1915 North Shields, and had a daughter together Elizabeth Ann Harley born 1916 but died. we know he was convicted and sent to HMP Leeds, also convicted in Mansfield, courtmarshelled in Clipstow and final whereabouts are in Wormwood scrubs 1921 for 18 mths. intended to live in London as a Baker.

on 1920 register he is with wife Minnie by the time of the 1937 Minnie is with others but not lawrence, 1939 register Minnie is down as Widowed.

ive traced his siblings and 4 went to Canada around 1909 one going 1912 there parents died young, and the youngest was 11 in 1909. that went to Canada.

any help on his whereabouts greatly appriciated , many thanks