This is a re-post of a message I put on Ancestry in May, in the hope of reaching an even wider expert audience. It's my first post here, so please excuse any faux pas! And sorry if I am giving too much detail.
I would really appreciate help with tracing the right father for my ggrandfather Samuel Williams (1861 Llangollen). From searching the censuses, I have two definitely correct entries for Samuel in 1901 at Bryn Melyn, Llangollen St Collen and in 1891 at Garth Ucha, Llangollen Traian. At the time of his wedding in 1889 Samuel is recorded as living in Garth Trevor Ruabon, and is a platemaker. I also know that he worked at a quarry in the area.
Before 1889 it all gets murky, and I can't be sure which is his household. I know Samuel's father was Edward from Samuel's 1889 marriage certificate, which also gives Edward's profession as collier. The witness at the wedding was a John Williams, perhaps his brother. Unfortunately I have no family memories of other siblings.
I've spotted two possible Edward Williams, who have a Samuel in the household - one married to a Gwen (Cornely Gardden, Trevor Ucha 1871) and one married to a Winiffred (14 Garth Ucha, Llangollen Traian 1881). Neither gives Edward the profession of collier - but I'm not sure if general labourer could cover it. One helpful suggestion from Ancestry is that Gwen and Winiffred are the same person - with different variants of Gwenffrewi. Gwen features in 1861 and 1871 and Winiffred in 1851 and 1881. The order of the children could just work - in Winiffred's 1851 they are Edward (6) and John (4). In Gwen's 1861, Edward (16), Jane (
, John (6) and Samuel (1). In Gwen's 1871 Edward (26), Jane (18), Jno (17) and Samuel (11). In Winiffred's 1881 Edward is 32 and Samuel 21. But Edward senior's age seems to fluctuate wildely.
Is there a way I can nail this down with more certainty? I've tried searching the census by address, but my understanding of street naming in Trevor is too limited. Are the Garth Ucha addresses sufficiently similar to point to the Winiffred family? Would any other certificates shed light on this? Perhaps baptism records could confirm if Gwen and Winiffred are one and the same?
Many thanks in advance for any help, guidance, fresh eyes, or local knowledge. I am based in the Netherlands, so local research is difficult.