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I'm trying to find the death details of William Robert Thorpe (born Norfolk, England 29th March 1912).

He married in Peterborough in 1935 to Hilda May McDonald and had 5 children.

He left her and had children to a married woman Joan West (married name Werninck).

The youngest child was born in 1960 and said his dad died in Peterborough when he was about 4.

But there is no record of his death, burial or obituary in Northamptonshire in the 1960's.

Some family tree's online have him dying in Norfolk in 1967, but his son says that's not him as he died when he was there in Peterborough, and he definitely wasn't as old as 7.

Can anybody please find a record of death for William Robert Thorpe in Peterborough approximately 1964?

Thanks.

Hi

My ancestor, Ethel Cecilia Odell (born Ramsgate, Kent, England 1885) seems to have disappeared after 1921.

She was the daughter of Joseph Odell (1849-1936) and Susan Elizabeth Stupples (1850-1907).

She is in the 1891 census in Margate, and the 1901 and 1911 census in Ramsgate:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/16370149:6598

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/6899717:7814

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/50869920:2352

She is also in the 1921 census with her sister Charlotte Odell in Hammersmith, London (although I haven't got access).

After this she disappears.

No marriage or death that fits.

I can't see an obvious listing for her in the 1939 Register.

And no passenger list that I can find.

There is a family of Odell's in Biggleswade but these are unrelated.

Her sister (Gladys May Odell) seems to have moved to South Africa and married a Frank Lionel Sandy in Durban in 1920.

I thought Ethel may have followed, but she's still in England in 1921.

Can anybody please help to find her?

Thanks.

Hi

My Great-Uncle Charles Henry Elliott was born in Lambeth, London, England in 1879.

The son of Robert Elliott (1829-1881) and Emma Briggs (1837-1896).

1 year old in 1881 in Lambeth:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/7572/images/LNDRG11_598_600-0162?pId=20687224

He joined the Royal Artillery (No. 19184) in 1897, and was posted to India but was permanently discharged in April 1899 due to a perforated eardrum.

His Service record states that he was in Britain at the time of his discharge (Home).

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/search/results?sourcecategory=armed+forces+%26+conflict&sid=101&lastname=elliott&soldiernumber=19184&keywordsplace_proximity=5&sourcecountry=great+britain

I can't find him after this.

He doesn't seem to show up on the 1901 or 1911 census.

And there is no obvious death for him.

A tree on ancestry has his death as "1902 South Africa" but I can't see any overseas deaths for that, or any re-enlistment.

Can anybody please help to find him please?

Thanks

Darin.

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I'm looking for the death of my 4 x Great-Grandfather Henry Champs.

1). Henry Champs was born in Sarre, Kent, England in approximately 1817 (son of James Champs (1781-1852) and Amelia White (1782-1862).

2). Henry Champs married Harriet Hancock (1820-1898) in St Alphage, in Canterbury, Kent in 1838.

3). They had several children:

Jane Hancock Champs (1838-1877);
George Champs (1840-1900);
Eliza Ann Champs (1843-1901);
William Hancock Champs (1845-1873);
Henry Champs (1847-1932);
Angelina Champs (1850-1927);
Laura Champs (1852-1883);
Eleanor Maxted Champs (1854-1938);
Charles Arthur Champs (1856-1924).

4). In the 1851 Census they are in Chislet, Kent:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGLX-87T

5). In 1861 Harriet is in Ramsgate with 2 of her children.

Henry isn't there, but it still states she's married?

Where is Henry? Is he dead or at a different address on census night?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M752-T12

6). In 1871 Harriet (spelt Hariot) is in Ramsgate (St. Laurence) with her daughter Ellen and a William Baker.
Henry isn't with her.
I can't find this on Familysearch (only on FindMyPast) so I can't determine if it says that Harriet is a widow or not.

7). In 1878 it looks like Harriet Champs re-married to John Langley.

. In 1881 they are in Ramsgate:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27W-KDGB

9). In 1891 the widowed Harriet Langley is living in Ramsgate (address Plains of Waterloo - which is the street her daughter Eliza Ann Champs (married name Stupples lived in so I'm convinced it's her).

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2MW-K2M

10). There is a tree on ancestry that has Harriet dying in 1898. There is a Harriet Langley dying in 1898.
The same tree has Henry Champs dying in 1906.

Why would he still be alive after Harriet re-married?

I don't think it's my Henry Champs.

I'm convinced Henry Champs died between 1856 and 1878 but I can't find anything to support it.

Can anybody help to find the death of Henry please?

Thanks.