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England / Re: Stuck! No probate record - anything more I can do?
« on: Friday 13 February 15 00:44 GMT (UK)  »
You need to contact the local Council of the place he was living at the time of his death, they have the responsibility trying to locate relatives, and  of clearing his accommodation and disposing of his effects, along with arranging his funeral. They should be able to tell his next of kin all the necessary information.

Jebber

Thanks Jebber - I'll contact them and if they don't want to speak to me then I can tell his daughter/grandson to try it as they would surely qualify as NOK

It's a shame as they must have searched for them but were unsuccessful.  Admittedly his descendants were not in the same country but he had siblings still living in England at the time he died and they must not have found them either.

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England / Re: Stuck! No probate record - anything more I can do?
« on: Thursday 12 February 15 22:28 GMT (UK)  »
Yep tried all of the above!  I'm afraid it is a super common name though  :-\

I can't think of anyone else who could be researching him anyway as I'm in contact with his children and his siblings children.  Admittedly there are children of one brother that I haven't been able to trace due to the common name but considering what I've heard from the other nieces and nephews I'm not hopeful they would know anything about him anyway.  I'd still like to find them though as you never know!  It's clear none of this family was contactable when he died though or surely one of them would have registered his death instead of a hospital worker  :-\

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England / Re: Stuck! No probate record - anything more I can do?
« on: Thursday 12 February 15 22:12 GMT (UK)  »
Hi dawnsh - thanks for the help.

Ok I'll have a search for local crematoria in Birmingham.  I don't know anything about the Birmingham area but there can't be that many so worth sending a message out to them just in case.  It was 24 years ago too but you never know.

Yes I've thought of trying to contact neighbours but I'm struggling to find the address still in existence!  I think it may have been a nursing home of some kind but I can't be sure.

Do you know how I would go about searching Birmingham electoral registers for 1950-1991?  They are accessible at the Library of Birmingham but not sure if there is another way as I'm not local.

Thanks!

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England / Re: Stuck! No probate record - anything more I can do?
« on: Thursday 12 February 15 21:52 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Nanny Jan,

Thanks for the reply and the welcome  :)

Yes I tried there too but no joy.  I can't think of anything else now  :-\ 

It's good that I've found the death itself but it's a very bare fact to give them - it doesn't really tell them anything about the rest of his life.

It would be good to know what happens in these kinds of circumstances when there is an elderly person seemingly with no traceable family - I know the local authority has to take charge of the body and it was chosen to cremate him but that's basic.  I guess they would give him a funeral but would they bother with a notice in the newspaper in case any friends wished to attend?  I doubt it I suppose but it would be good to know for sure the exact protocol.

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England / Stuck! No probate record - anything more I can do?
« on: Thursday 12 February 15 21:28 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Rootschatters - I am researching a man whose family lost touch with him in the 1950s for a friend, his descendant, and really would love to know what became of him.  I have now tracked down his death certificate but it seems the authorities didn't know he had any family and they weren't informed of his death.  He died in England in 1991 and the person who registered the death was a worker at the hospital in which he died.  That is all the information I can get from the death certificate other than the cause, of course, and his usual residence.  It also informs me that he was cremated but I don't know if his name will be left anywhere from that since it's likely the local authorities took care of it by the look of things.  Even his occupation was left blank on the certificate so the person registering his death must have known little about him.

I have searched the wills/probate register for him but there is nothing.  Surely even if he had relatively little his possessions must have gone somewhere  :-\  I was hoping a probate record would tell me more.

I was really hoping to find his death was registered by a family member or family friend and I could find out more about his life and what became of him after the 1950s from them but I'm now not sure where else to search.  I have traced his siblings too - all of them are also dead now but I have spoken to some of their children and it seems he lost touch with his siblings a long time ago too and their children knew very little.  He's such a mystery!

Any suggestions on if there's anything more I can do or if I'll need to make do with finding his death gratefully received!  Thanks.

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