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Banffshire / Re: Alexander Williams 1869 Can you help?
« on: Tuesday 17 September 19 18:04 BST (UK)  »
According to 1939 Register his dob is 06/06/1868.
According to his death certificate he died Jan 1945 aged 76, birth approx 1869.
:)

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Banffshire / Re: Alexander Williams 1869 Can you help?
« on: Tuesday 17 September 19 16:31 BST (UK)  »
Have you looked at the 1939 records?

Malky
Yes, but by 1939 he was 70 years of age, and his family were all grown up.  I know lots about him from 1901 but nothing about a birth - that is the bit I am struggling with.

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Banffshire / Re: Alexander Williams 1869 Can you help?
« on: Tuesday 17 September 19 16:14 BST (UK)  »
Any "Williams" as witnesses in the marriage cert' ?

Malky
Unfortunately not, the only WIlliams I have is my gr grandfather himself..I can find his birth so nothing much to go on and I dont know the name of his mum.

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Banffshire / Re: Alexander Williams 1869 Can you help?
« on: Tuesday 17 September 19 15:13 BST (UK)  »
Try tracking him back through earlier censuses and looking at where siblings were born. It may be that he spent his early years in Banff and so thought he was born there, but was actually born elsewhere. I managed to track down a baptism for an ancestor who had given wrong birth location on a census by tracing his brother and figuring out the real birth location.
Unfortunately I dont have the names of any of his siblings.

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Banffshire / Re: Alexander Williams 1869 Can you help?
« on: Tuesday 17 September 19 15:12 BST (UK)  »
Have you found him in pre 1901 censuses?

Yes he is living in South SHields, Durham in 1901 - with a wife but I dont think he actually married her as cant find a marriage or even a birth for the son that they have living with them.

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Banffshire / Re: Alexander Williams 1869 Can you help?
« on: Tuesday 17 September 19 15:11 BST (UK)  »
Have you looked at the 1867 Forglen birth entry?

Malky
Thank you Malky, unfortunately
Have you looked at the 1867 Forglen birth entry?

Malky
not my relative

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Banffshire / Re: Alexander Williams 1869 Can you help?
« on: Tuesday 17 September 19 12:28 BST (UK)  »
Hi.  I have been searching for my gr grandfather for some years and have had the help from people on these boards in the past, all help greatly appreciated however, still no joy.  I have therefore decided to start again with a different outlook and would be grateful for any advice anyone could offer: 
My question is, If you had a relative who on a census (1901 in England) states that he was born in Banff, Scotland. What would be the first thing you would do to try and find his birth and if you were unable to find a birth (Scotlands People) for that area within 5 years either side for his name, what would you then do?
Is there any other records I need to look at if he was potentially illegitimate?
I don't have his mothers name, however I have what I think his father's name was (from marriage certificate).
Any guidance greatly appreciated.

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Banffshire / Re: Herd/Noble Illegimate on census 1871
« on: Wednesday 27 December 17 18:14 GMT (UK)  »
Mabel... I just did a little bit of digging and figured out that the children's mum died in childbirth and the emunerator must have thought Jean was their mum as their dad was away.

Thank you for taking the time to respond, much appreciated

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Banffshire / COMPLETED - Herd/Noble Illegimate on census 1871
« on: Wednesday 27 December 17 17:05 GMT (UK)  »
I am wondering if someone could shed some light on why 2 children would have been listed on the 1871 census as Illegitimate, when their parents were married.

1871 24 Crook Oness Street, Banff
James Noble 1821 Fisherman
Mary Noble 1845 Fishermans Wife
Jean Noble 1845 Dom Serv
Alexander Herd Grandson 1869 Illegitimate b. Macduff
Infant Grandson 1871 Illefitimate b.Macduff

I have been able to obtain the birth for both Alexander and Infant (James) and their birth register state Father Robert Herd-Seaman m.s and mother Jane Herd (formerly Noble).  They married in 1866

I am assuming Jean above is Jane and wonder why their children would be listed on the census as illegitimate even though the parents were married.

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