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England / Re: Ryan family tree
« on: Sunday 01 November 20 14:55 GMT (UK) »
Rosie99, 268 captain Street is the address given on the birth certificate in 1893
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England / Re: Ryan family tree
« on: Sunday 01 November 20 14:52 GMT (UK) »
heywood, I don't have a direct DNA link with the Borrisoleigh family, that's what I'm trying to establish or rule out, as per my original post. My DNA profile puts me slap in the middle of Tipperary and this is the only family in all the Tipperary registers that match my search. I've been in contact with distant cousins in America and Australia who have pin pointed their ancestor's to Thurles, 8.5 miles from Borrisoleigh and also Limerick.
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England / Re: Ryan family tree
« on: Sunday 01 November 20 11:50 GMT (UK) »
heywood, That particular Patrick Ryan died at 79 Captain Street, the daughter was called M. Robinson who I traced back to Tullamore in Ireland. This was definitely not my Patrick or family, very disappointing after months of research, especially as Mary Davis had lived at 24 Captain Street prior to the marriage and 268 captain Street where Granddad was born, 3 years later. I have my notes, photos and documents over a foot high on my desk from the last 25 years, too much to rummage through but I do remember finding and researching 4 or 5 different Patrick Ryan's from the same area. There were slight age discrepancies and different occupations. I worked on many theories and leads but always came up onto the brick wall. I've left the more intensive research for a few years but with the new information from the DNA, I'm hoping I can at last track the family down.
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England / Re: Ryan family tree
« on: Sunday 01 November 20 10:24 GMT (UK) »
heywood, I checked the 1896 death but Patrick was only 49 not 60, The only death that matched was in 1916, he was the right age and lived on Captain Street, the same street where granddad was born. I managed to trace the family back to Ireland via Patricks married daughter who was the witness to his death. On following the family forward again I was disappointed to find Patrick had married again "after Mary Davis" but the marriage cert gave his father as Thomas and not William. He was a tailor on both marriage (to Mary) and birth (William. his son) certificates
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England / Re: Ryan family tree
« on: Sunday 01 November 20 00:15 GMT (UK) »
heywood, I have 28 king Charles St on Patrick & Mary Davis's marriage cert in 1891. I previously found the 1881 & 1891 census's with Maggie and Alice but couldn't link them to my Patrick, I still have the notes if I need to look at them again. I have found 4 Patrick's living in the same streets at the same time so that makes things more confusing. The marriage in Lancashire in 1857 would make Patrick 10 years old. I need to find Patrick with his family in 1861 at 14 years old and possibly again in 1871.
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England / Re: Ryan family tree
« on: Saturday 31 October 20 23:27 GMT (UK) »
Milliepede, I had Sophie Hinds a few years ago but discounted her after further research. I also have John Borwick on my tree and their marriage certificate. Something went very wrong just after my granddads birth in 1893. I need to connect the Borrisoleigh family to what I know about my Gt-grandfather, fill in the years between 1854 and 1891 and then I'll have a better idea of what happened to the family and who Patricks 1st wife was. Once I have that I can go back from 1841 and hopefully connect with my DNA cousins trees and discover where Patrick went c.1894/5
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England / Re: Ryan family tree
« on: Saturday 31 October 20 17:59 GMT (UK) »
rosie99, Haven't found Patrick on any census, I've been searching and following leads for 25 years and my father before me. The DNA has given me new information but I still can't find a link between the family above to the definite facts I've known from the start. I picked up Patrick with his 2nd marriage in 1891 and lost him again 3 years later and my granddad had been abandoned. Mary Davis turned up back in her home town Kendal and later re-married as a spinster. I have distant cousins in New York, Alabama and New South Wales. Maybe Patrick was a bigamist and Mary, 18 years his junior, found out, making the marriage void and Patrick left the country.
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England / Re: Ryan family tree
« on: Saturday 31 October 20 17:27 GMT (UK) »
Milliepede, Patrick was a widower when he married Mary Davis in 26/12/1891 and granddad was born 1/4/1893, both in Bradford, Yorkshire. rosie99, I tried LDS but didn't find it useful but I'll have another look.
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England / Ryan family tree
« on: Saturday 31 October 20 15:27 GMT (UK) »
I recently got a lead from my DNA map that I have family origins in Tipperary. Having searched every available parish register in the area, I found only one match; Patrick Ryan (gt-grandfather ?) bapt.1/3/1847 in Borrisoleigh, parents; William Ryan and Bridget Ready. From that I found William and Bridget's marriage; 4/11/1841 and siblings; Mary bapt.11/11/1842, James bapt.5/12/1844, William bapt.11/3/1849, Michael bapt,28/5/1850 and Ellen bapt,6/3/1854. Continued searching till 1860 but no more entries. At some point Patrick ended up in England, I suspect 1854 or just after and maybe appears in the 1861 census or later. I no longer have a subscription, could anyone find them please ?