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Hi Jim,

Thanks for the info. Unfortunately our scanner is out of action atm I can't even get the printer to work from this computer atm.

Hi Kate,

Thanks so much for that, it looks brill

Sorry I didn't get back sooner, but not had any notifications yet about replies

Hi Debbie,
I've been through every combination under the sun Even omitting last name and trawling through the Elizas born 1862 +/-2 etc.

I actually only just found Margaret today on the 1881. Decided to try and find who some of her sisters married, and took pot luck at one of them. Checked the 1871 after the marriage, and saw there was a daughter Grace E, which made it more probable it was her sister. Decided to check the 1881, and low and behold with that family was a Margaret R???S c1839, but stated born Salford. it had to be her!

I've been stuck on this family years, and keep going back to it every now and then.

My main issue is that William Cliff was my GtGt Grandfather. The only William Cliff born Salford 1858, was this one. The birth cert doesn't name a father, and he was born Morris St, nextdoor to where margaret was living with her parents on the 1851. He married in 1880, and states his father as being called Joseph, a carter, which I believe to be fictional, as I have never been able to find a death for a Joseph Cliff c1858, and also Joseph wasn't named on birth cert.
I'm trying to establish whether this William Cliff on the 1871 working as a servant is him, or if I'll hopefully find him with Margaret, Frederick and Eliza.

Cheers, Sue

Thanks SKB,

My comp has been playing up recently, and I was worried that it was my comp adding things that it shouldn't

Thanks SKB,

I thought it was the 1861 that was damaged, though I think I've also found some of the 1871 damaged for that area. Such a shame