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Midlothian / Re: LIND AITKEN HOWISON MARTIN
« on: Friday 10 July 09 23:20 BST (UK)  »
Hello, Robbie!
Tutu works. 
I have corresponded periodically with some of your wife's cousins, particularly Janis Cornwall who has a very interesting story to tell.   I know the cousins here in Hawaii a great deal better.  John, the oldest of Marion's siblings -- the infant who was enumerated at So. Cobbinshaw in the 1881 census -- married in Scotland and in 1910 moved to Hawaii.   John and his wife, Helen, had 2 sons -- John (called Jack) and James.  James never married.  Jack married a Hawaiian woman (Daisy) and lived on the island of Maui.  They had five sons -- John, Bruce, Greg, Jeffrey, and Terrance.  Most of them live near their mother on the island of Maui.    You can read more about John Lind at www.kipahulu.org. 

http://gallery.mac.com/scottcrawford#100041/IMG_4995&bgcolor=black  In this photo, Tweetie (aka Glenna) Lind is standing, in red; the bearded gentleman next to her is her husband, John.   

You're right.  Thomas, born 1759.    The lineage COULD be Robert Lin d. 1705 (will at ScotlandsPeople) appears to have brother David and sister Janet, at least sons James and Adam.    James of Mosshat, Covenanter b. c. 1655 MAY BE his son.  Timing and place fit.  THEN MAYBE -- John of Mosshat.  Robert leaves half of his sheep to his apparent grandson, John -- son of James.  I would VERY MUCH like this grandson, John, to be the same John who married Helen Howison!  But I don't have enough information to make that proof.  If you are in Scotland, and if you ever use the archives in Edinburgh, maybe you can muck around in the land records and wills and see if you can turn up documents from the period 1650-1800 re. the lands of Mosshat, Tarbrax, Cobbinshaw, Kiprig, Kipsyke(s) and Auchingray. 

Send me your direct address, and I will send you a GEDCOM of what we know about this line. 
---Bonnie

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Midlothian / Re: LIND AITKEN HOWISON MARTIN
« on: Monday 06 July 09 00:43 BST (UK)  »
Hello, Robbie --
Are you trying to move forward or backward with this family?  I am descended from Thomas Lind and Agnes m.s. Shields, and link them to John Lind and Helen m.s. Howison through family correspondence held by a distant cousin in Canada.   Thomas' siblings come from repeated readings of Carnwath and West Calder OPRs as published by the LDS Church in their International Genealogical Index -- the extracted records version, not patron submissions.  That has been supplemented by Civil Registrations at New Register House, Edinburgh read and transcribed by a correspondent in the Edinburgh area.  Also correspondence with other descendants over the last 15 years.  So we have a pretty complete and well documented tree downward from two sons of the +/- 1750 couple.  I cannot find anything about the son John (one died in infancy, the other ???) or the daughters -- apart from Bess who married John Watson. 

Going backwards is a bit trickier.  There's a great deal of circumstance, speculation and guesswork, mostly based on place.  I believe (but cannot document) that the John Lind in question was the son of James Lind who was a Covenanter.  There is a list of Covenanters posted on Ancestry.com which includes "James Linn of Moshat".  Some of the later generations of Linds married into Covenanter families in Dumfriesshire.  There is a will for Robert Linn of Auchingray posted at Scotland'sPeople linking him to Mosshat.   Other documents from the period link John Lin, James Lin, Adam Lin and David Lin to the farms of Auchingray, Tarbrax and Mosshat.  The timing is a bit awkward to make the generations work.  Since my ancestor was not born until 1759 (per OPRs), it is bothersome to have his father born in the 1680's.  Possible, but awkward.   I need to learn a lot more about Scottish law, inheritance, and property ownership to really understand what I am reading.  And no, I cannot definitively link to other Lin(d) - Howison marriages.  I do believe all the Linds between Glasgow and Edinburgh are linked to one degree or another. 

Am happy to share shat I have. 
--Bonnie

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Scotland / Re: Que: Changing Religion in Scotland
« on: Saturday 02 August 08 19:50 BST (UK)  »
Pam: 
Better late than never?   Had a similar problem with my West Calder Lind lines -- they just disappeared from the OPR records in the same period you are struggling with.  Some -- but not all -- popped up in the Associate Session records, I believe at Kirknewton.  Some earlier records suggest the family had Covenanter sympathies.  Another clue is in the West Calder OPRs circa 1800 -- several Lind siblings/cousins are listed together, out of sequence, I think at the end of the 1800 pages.  No baptismal dates for the children, several children of same parents listed consecutively.  So the minister was keeping a tally of the children in the parish who had not been baptised in his church.    I suspect the Howison women who married Linds were part of the Aitken family through their mother, but have no proof for that view.    Good luck!  Tutu Bonnie

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United States of America / Re: Sing sing prison
« on: Tuesday 13 July 04 20:09 BST (UK)  »
I don't know if this site is your ultimate answer, but it has some interesting links for you to follow.  Good luck!    http://www.townofossining.com/info/hist-demos.htm     
Tutu Bonnie

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Midlothian / Re: LIND AITKEN HOWISON MARTIN
« on: Saturday 10 July 04 06:41 BST (UK)  »
 :) Hello!   
I have John LIND and Helen HOWISON who from 1742-1759 had AGNES, JANET, JAMES (m/1 Anges Burns m/2 Agnes Mill), BESSIE (m/ John Watson), JOHN, JOHN and THOMAS (m/ Agnes Shields, lived Cobbinshaw).    Can you link to your William Lind - Margaret Howison or to William Thomas Lind who married Janet Howison?  All lived Carnwath, West Calder and environs, all approximately contemporary. 
Tutu

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