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The Common Room / Re: Spinning Wheels
« on: Saturday 19 November 22 21:54 GMT (UK)  »
It is possible that one wheel was a Great (or Walking) wheel used for spinning wool and the other a more modern style flyer wheel used for flax.
https://theknittinggenie.com/2014/03/05/youre-doing-it-even-more-wrong-or-how-the-great-wheel-survived

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London and Middlesex / Re: Charles Dennis 1844/5
« on: Saturday 24 September 22 17:11 BST (UK)  »
I am sorry that I have not got back to thank you for all the help. I agree with all your research but there a couple of matters that prevent me saying “case closed”


In 1861 that same son Charles is working as a shoeblack and boarding (still in Southwark), with the “Superintendent of Shoe Blacks”. (I note he married the daughter of someone in the shoe business)


The “Society of Shoeblacks” was, I understand, a offshoot of the Ragged Schools movement set up to provide destitute and homeless boys with employment up to age 18. How did Charles, with a family in the area, qualify? Was it enough for him to have quarrelled with his father and been thrown out? I cannot find any records to help answer this question. Did he only reconcile with the family after his father’s death.

I know that we can seldom be certain of our facts and going on the balance of probabilities I am accepting the Southwark family but I am trying to get the Bloomsbury birth certificate.

Thanks again for all your interest.


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The Lighter Side / Re: Double trouble?
« on: Sunday 11 September 22 20:34 BST (UK)  »
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It is Regent Street Worcester not Gloucester  ;D
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It is indeed! My apologies. Thanks for pointing that out. I don’t seem to be able to edit that post unfortunately.

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The Lighter Side / Re: Double trouble?
« on: Sunday 11 September 22 10:29 BST (UK)  »
I have just made a break through thanks to FindMyPast hints!

It looks as though Abel was previously using the name James Thomas and he WAS a brewer.
I have found the family up in Bilston in 1881 and back in Worcester in 1891
Now to see I can connect it to Abel Thomas who married May Ann Nicholls in 1857 in St Clements Worcester and who is with her and their two daughters  in 1861. I suspect he ran away with Amelia up to Bilston and changed his first name.

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The Lighter Side / Re: Double trouble?
« on: Sunday 11 September 22 09:36 BST (UK)  »
Which Thomas family?  Can you post full details?
Sorry. I forgot to add the details

Abel Thomas, aged 65, born Colwell, Herefordshire. 1901 Worcester, st Martins, Holy Trinity

Piece 2780

First entry Folio 99 pg 15 Schedule 114.

Second entry Folio 100 pg 18 Schedule 131

I only wish that one version had Abel’s occupation as I am looking for a brewer!

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The Lighter Side / Double trouble?
« on: Saturday 10 September 22 15:23 BST (UK)  »
This is a new one for me.

In 1901 census the Thomas family living in Regent Street Gloucester is listed twice. On page 15 they are all listed in detail, then on page 18 exactly the same family but with slightly altered occupations. The families before and after on each page differ. I wonder if they were actually spread out over two different houses and different family members answered the enumerators without realising they were being double counted!


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London and Middlesex / Re: Charles Dennis 1844/5
« on: Thursday 08 September 22 18:32 BST (UK)  »
1851 census ref, is this your family, father's profession matches Charles marriage in 1866.

Piece:   1564
Folio:   182
Page Number:   30

The sons Edward & William birth ref below

DENNIS, WILLIAM  HENRY     mmnGRAY 
GRO Reference: 1848  J Quarter in SAINT GEORGE THE MARTYR SOUTHWARK  Volume 04  Page 491

DENNIS, EDWARD  THOMAS     mmn GRAY 
GRO Reference: 1850  S Quarter in SAINT GEORGE THE MARTYR SOUTHWARK

John

John

Yes this is the family I was working on when I came across the other possible birth registration.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Charles Dennis 1844/5
« on: Thursday 08 September 22 18:30 BST (UK)  »

If you have his birth registration in Lambeth and family why are you looking at the Bloomsbury birth?

Because in 1911 he says he is born in Bloomsbury not in Lambeth. I want to eliminate any doubts about his parents

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London and Middlesex / Re: Charles Dennis 1844/5
« on: Thursday 08 September 22 17:33 BST (UK)  »

ADDED The entry for the birth registration on FindMyPast links to an image of the register which does not show any MMN's on the page

Good point! Thanks for that. But the Bloomsbury note throws me still.

I notice that there is a marriage for a George James Dennis and a Mary Ann Wilson that could tie the baptism that Comberton has found with Charles saying his father is George Dennis - and a servant could become a cabinet maker. Looks like I have a new path to explore.

Do you think that it is worth while trying GRO with the info that FindMyPast gives?

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