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Messages - Andrew Tarr

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The Common Room / Re: Old Houses / Todays houses
« on: Yesterday at 09:32 »
I don't think I have actually asked to see any ancestral homes, but I have taken a few passing photos.  My parents' house, nearly-new when I was born, has been extended and its surroundings are now quite different.  My maternal grandmother's family settled in Liverpool, and all their town homes are long gone, but she retired to Crosby, shown in the centre of this family photo taken in ~1910; my grandmother is on the right and my mother is the little girl.  The young lad signed up for WW1 but was killed by a train before getting there  :'(.  The other shot was taken about 100 years later and the house doesn't seem much changed.

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The Common Room / Re: Birth registration rules in 1901 UK
« on: Tuesday 07 May 24 10:55 BST (UK)  »
I also thought that they had 6 weeks to register a birth at that time but I am sure someone will verify what it was 
Since the GRO's recent attack of relative generosity I have worked through much of my (fairly modest) family tree, recording dates of registration against dates of birth.  A few parents went straight to the registry after a day or two.  The great majority waited until the sixth week, one or two of them apparently arranging a baptism on the same day.  So the evidence seems to be that 6 weeks has been the requirement since registration began.  Very occasionally a parent seems to have forgotten.

It seems that my ggg-grandfather made a habit of going from his farm into Ashburton to register his children as soon as he could.  A boy and a girl (twins) were registered with names the next day in 1842, but the father had to return just 5 days later to register the boy's (this time anonymous) death.  The likelihood of that happening was perhaps the main reason for the typical wait until the sixth week.

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The Common Room / Re: Gentlemen Only Funerals in Wales - Why?
« on: Monday 06 May 24 09:25 BST (UK)  »
"Utter Rubbish !"
Well, that's religion for you.
And, as Viktoria suggests, much of religion beyond historical facts recorded in holy books, becomes superstition when ritualised.  My belief is that most religion originated as attempts to explain unusual or extraordinary phenomena.  Science has revealed causes for many such things, so most people are much less superstitious now.  Sadly a good deal persists as culture wars rather than proper 'religion'.

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The Common Room / Re: Accuracy of marriage records
« on: Sunday 05 May 24 23:29 BST (UK)  »
But if the information may be inaccurate then I will not take it as fact.
As most of the details on a certificate are answers to a recorder's questions, some of which may have been asked in various ways or not at all, a good deal of them should not be 'taken as fact' in a strict sense.  In my wife's tree is a man who married twice about 5 years apart, and was apparently younger the second time than the first - probably because the first marriage was to a noticeably older widow who reduced her age while he augmented his.  And we all know about variable surnames : I have seen a certificate for a lady named Heywood who quite clearly signed herself Hayward.

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The Common Room / Re: Gentlemen Only Funerals in Wales - Why?
« on: Saturday 04 May 24 09:36 BST (UK)  »
Widows wore "widows weeds", which meant that they wore dark mourning clothes for at least one year.
As many still do in Mediterranean countries, for the rest of their lives.

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The Common Room / Re: Gentlemen Only Funerals in Wales - Why?
« on: Saturday 04 May 24 09:28 BST (UK)  »
Experienced this in 2005 in Scotland. Tradition.
Perhaps it has its roots in days when a coffin might have to be carried a long distance to a church over a 'corpse road' ? Quite likely in rural Wales or Scotland, where parishes were large, hilly and sparsely populated.

On the other hand, an anecdote from industrial south Wales (woman speaking, Welsh accent) : "not a good funeral, only a cup of tea and a sandwich".

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The Common Room / Re: Photographs of Kathleen M Carrick b 1899 Gateshead
« on: Wednesday 01 May 24 09:46 BST (UK)  »
(responding for my wife  ;D)  Further searches have shown that this Kathleen Carrick was born in 1899 and died in Sunderland in 1990, unmarried.  So she would have been teaching at this school - not a pupil as suggested - and there are unlikely to be any direct descendants interested in her photo.  Of course any cousins who are interested may feel free to ask !

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The Common Room / Re: GRO digital images £2.50
« on: Thursday 25 April 24 09:41 BST (UK)  »
I have paid for about 5 or 6 .pdf's at £7 a certificate over the last few months.  I've only just seen the link tonight for a £2.50 jpg image.  This is fantastic news and I can't believe I never saw it before!
Don't forget that a small proportion (a few %) of entries are not available as an online image for some technical reason.

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The Common Room / Re: How did Brockett became Brockie
« on: Friday 19 April 24 10:21 BST (UK)  »
Another thing to remember is that church vicars, padres, preachers, etc., moved away from the birth places to give guidance in other parishes and did not know the then very strong local dialects.
I have an ancestor named Piercy who was recorded as Pearson when he married in 1806, and my wife has an Anderson recorded (on the original marriage register) as Andrews in 1850.  When you allow for the possibility that many people couldn't offer the 'correct' spelling of their surname, variations are only to be expected.  The recorder would write what he believed was said.

I have transcribed registers for a rural Lancashire parish where the vicar (who was there for decades) regularly recorded Haworths and Howarths apparently at random.

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