Nottinghamshire directories - 1820's

[alcrighton]

Does anyone have access to any Trade Directories of Nottinghamshire from the 1820's which would cover the village of Beckingham (Notts.)? 

I'm trying to find out who was the proprieter of the Hare & Hounds Pub in Beckingham as an inderect way of narrowing down when my ggg Grandfather died.  In White's 1832 directory (from www.historicaldirectories.org), the pub is being run by my ggg Grandmother Susannah CURTIS and I believe that my ggg Grandfather George CURTIS would be listed as proprieter up until his death.

I know Pigot & Co. published in 1822 & 1828 and Glover in 1825 but don't know how extensive these were.

I'd be very grateful for anyting anyone can find.  If you do manage to find a listing for Beckingham, could you also see whether another of my ggg Grandfathers Edmund STOVIN is listed as the local schoolmaster?

Many thanks,

Al

[Jane Eden]

Hi Al

I'll check for you at the archives. Going in an hour.

Jane

[Jane Eden]

Hi Al

I had a quick look at a Piggot I think it was 1818 but they are very thin volumes with not enough detail. I will look further but the staff said they are probably all similar in that period.

He did however point me in the direction of Alehouse Recognizances. Maybe you know all about these but I didn't. They are the quarter sessions where the victuallers licences were granted. They have them for the 1820s. I will look through them and see when a new licence was granted for the Hare & Hounds which may point to when he retired or died. Do you want to know when he first got his licence as well?

Thinking about it though it may be just as quick to skim through the burials at Beckingham in the parish register micrifiches. I will also skim through the marriages 1795-1805.

Any other queries let me know as while I have the Beckingham fiches out I may as well look for whatever you want.

Jane

[alcrighton]

Hi Jane,

I didn't know about victuallers' licences!  That would be wonderful if you could find something on the licencees of the Hare & Hounds!  I have no idea when (or even if) George first became licencee but I know that Susannah was licencee in 1832 and still at the time of the 1841 census.  By 1851, she was dead and her eldest son Joseph was in charge.  He didn't last long as by 1861 he was an Ag Lab in another village!  I think he drank away the profits and had to sell. 

I'll be fascinated to see what you're able to find in the burial registers - they shouldn't be too thick as the population of Beckingham was only about 400 so there should have been about 10 deaths per year or less.

I'm so grateful to you for taking the time to look in the records for me.  I hope to be able to have a browse myself some day and to visit Beckingham but it won't be this year as I live in Mexico!

Best Regards,

Al

[Jane Eden]

Hi Al

I had seen from your profile you are in Mexico, lucky you. I work full time but for people abroad I make a special effort for as you cannot get to the archives, (and for people in the UK who have tried all other routes). I get alot of pleasure helping others and it is a refreshing relief from my own frustrations of brick walls.

I also gain expertise in my own research by having experience in solving other peoples queries.

I will follow up the queries so far but also bear you in mind in the future if I happen to come across anything useful, as I do with others I have queries for.


Jane

[alcrighton]

Hi Jane,

If you see this before you go to the Nottingham Records Office, I've thought of another query you could help me with if you have time.  Another of my ggg Grandmothers, Mary STOVIN nee KEYWORTH was born in Beckingham according to the 1851 & 1861 censuses.  However, I can find no record of her baptism in the IGI for Beckingham.  According to the 1851 census she would have been born in 1790 or 1791.

I think she was therefore either baptised outside of Beckingham (there's one in the IGI for the right year in St Mary, Nottingham for example) or her parents may not have been Church of England (e.g. Methodist).

Could you have a look at the marriage record for Mary KEYWORTH & Edmund STOVIN from 12th May 1812 in Beckingham to see if a father's name is mentioned?  Also could you see if there is a register of non Church of England christennings (I know Beckingham had a Methodist Church) in the file and see if you can find Mary KEYWORTH from around 1790/91?

Anything you can find would be much appreciated.

Regards,

Al

ps If there's anyting I can do to try and help with your brick walls, just let me know.

[Jane Eden]

Hi Al

The marriage is listed as 18th May 1812 not the 12th on NFHS CD.

Yes I will have a look for you and let you know how I get on. If I run out of time tomorrow it will be next week. I can see the entry for St Marys but it is a heck of a long way from Beckingham in a car nevermind by foot, boat or cart.

Non conformists can be a problem as I have some as well. There are some microfiche and original registers but the coverage has not been good for my research.  I'll have a look anyway.

Jane

[Rowdy Jnr]

Try looking at this site

www.historicaldirectories.org

[alcrighton]

Thnaks Rowdy Jr,

As I said in my original post, that's the site where I got the information from the 1832 White's directory!  Unfortunately the site does not have any other directories which cover the Beckingham for the period I'm interested in

Regards,

Al