Fresh Eyes needed to find ROBERTS family in 1901 please

[BlackPearl]

I have looked for the following family a few times lately but just can't find them!  Have had a lot of other things on my mind and so, just to show that I have't gone completely insane (!) could someone please have a look for them on 1901 census:

George ROBERTS b. abt. 1855 in Gloucestershire
his wife Ellen b. abt. 1877 in Gloucestershire
their son James Henry b. abt. 1896 in ?

Thanks
Joanne 

[Keziahemm]

Hi Joanne,

Can't see them either 

Have you them on other census that gives more definitive place of birth?

Susan 

[BlackPearl]

ok, let me see........

George Roberts is in Pillow Green, Corse in 1881 as a Blacksmith born in Corse.  In 1861 he is with his parents in Fellows Green, Corse.

Ellen Jane Smith is with her parents in Westbury On Severn in the East Dean district in 1881 born in East Dean.

Does this help?

Joanne 

Just wanted to add that James Henry was my Nan's Dad so they have got to be somewhere???!!!

[Keziahemm]

Joanne this is a mystery

No sign of any of them in 1901.  I've also had a look at the PRO 1901 index, you can search by occupation, with no joy.

In 1891 Ellen is a servant :

     Ellen Smith   14   Dom. General    b: Gloucestershire East Dean

RG12/2056   folio 96   page 10
Jovial Colliers Inn, Ruardean



No trace of George Roberts in 1891 1901, except for this one living at The Flatt, Westbury on Severn

     George Roberts   45    Lab. on Highway   b: Corse, Gloucestershire
     Louise Roberts     39

Do you want all details of this one?

(The Flatt is on the A48, where Lyes Butchers is  )


Have you got James Henry's birth certificate?

Susan 




 

   

[BlackPearl]

If I could have the details of that George Roberts that would be great.  I kinda thought that maybe he could have been married before Ellen as there is a 22 year age gap. 

Perhaps I should be looking for a possible death for Louise Roberts between 1891 and 1894 as this is when George and Ellen were married.  What do you think?

Unfortuantely I don't have James Henry's birth cert at the mo but am hoping to get it soon.

Joanne 

[Keziahemm]

Hi Jo,

Sorry have re-read through my previous posting should have been 1901 not 1891 

1901

George Roberts  Head  Mar  45  Labourer on highway    Corse, Gloucestershire
Louisa Roberts  Wife  Mar  39     Elmore, Gloucestershire
George E. Roberts  son  -  14     Telegraph Messenger     Lydbrook, Gloucestershire
William J. Roberts  son  -  10         Lydbrook, Gloucestershire
Alfred S. Roberts   son  -   7          Glewstone, Herefordshire
Walter A. Roberts   son  -   2    Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire

The Flatt, Westbury on Severn
RG13/2417   folio 20   page 10


So........ unless he was married to two wives 


Susan 

[BlackPearl]

None of his makes sense !!! lol !!!

I've rechecked some info.

My Nan's maiden name was ROBERTS.  Her sister told me that their fathers mother was called Ellen Smith.  There is a marriage: Ellen Jane SMITH Sep 1894 Westbury S. 6a 455.  On the same page is a George Roberts

I have a reference to a birth for Ellen: Ellen Jane SMITH Dec 1876 Westbury S. 6a 261.  She is there in the 1881 census so I know that this is the correct Ellen. 

I suppose the next thing to think might be have I got the correct George Roberts?  Could there be another one floating around out there who is closer in age to Ellen than the one we have been looking for?

I don't know what search peramiters you used when you searched the 1901 for me, but do you think that you could have a look again by just using Ellen Roberts name? (One thing just occured to me  - she could be under the name of Jane instead)

Much appreciated
Joanne 

[Keziahemm]

Hi Joanne,

Still can't find her 

I'm in the Glos RO sometime this week, shall I look up that marriage at Westbury ?

Susan 

[BlackPearl]

That would be great - you star!

Looking forward to hearing from you!

Joanne