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John Daniel Phillips 1887 or 1891??completed
« on: Wednesday 15 February 06 15:28 GMT (UK) »
I really need some help. I have been searching the 1901 census and 1891 census to try to find the above mentioned. I cannot find him anywhere! There are a few by the same first and last name on the 1901 census but with a different middle name. I have his service records from ww1 and it says that he was born 1887 and he was 18 when he joined yet he told my uncle before he died that he joined at 14 illegally. His service records say that he was born in Ystrad and his next of kin is given only as Thomas. It also says his reason for joining was that he had no home. I have spent hours trying to find him with no luck whatsoever and i would appreciate any help anybody can offer. ???
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Re: John Daniel Phillips 1887 or 1891??
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 15 February 06 15:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi Have you tried the BMD index on Ancestry yet?

Let me know will try with you ...but I do not have a lot of time until later.  Would that be Ystrad, Rhondda?  If so, the reg district would be Pontypridd.

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: John Daniel Phillips 1887 or 1891??
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 February 06 15:59 GMT (UK) »
Found him on Freebmd

Births Mar Q 1888 Pontypridd  11a 511

John Daniel  PHILLIPS   

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: John Daniel Phillips 1887 or 1891??
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 February 06 16:04 GMT (UK) »
Wow. So he didnt lie about his age too much then!!!! Do you think that he could already of been ion the military in 1901 and thats why i cant find him??
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Philips - Rhondda
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Re: John Daniel Phillips 1887 or 1891??
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 February 06 16:06 GMT (UK) »
Here he is 1891

RG12/4424 Folio 21  Page 38
Pontypridd 

 Mistranscribed as female image says John D father Thomas

Leave you to look at 1901 if you have probs let me know

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: John Daniel Phillips 1887 or 1891??
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 15 February 06 16:09 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Re: John Daniel Phillips 1887 or 1891??
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 15 February 06 16:37 GMT (UK) »
Cannot find 1901...yet

Will try see if I can find any local death records of parents

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: John Daniel Phillips 1887 or 1891??
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 15 February 06 16:53 GMT (UK) »
This looks a possible for parents marriage - Ystradyfodwg Marriages.

THOMAS PHILLIPS, age 24, Bachelor, father JOHN Phillips, married MARGARET ANN THOMAS, age 22, Spinster, father's name Evan Thomas on 8/6/1884 in YSTRADYFODWG parish

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: John Daniel Phillips 1887 or 1891??
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 15 February 06 17:09 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again. Been trying the 1901 census but he is still not showing up. I tried that intelligent person search and the closest person it found was a Johanna Phillips!!!At least i can try and trace his parents for the moment. Thank you!
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Previously - Badgirl
Thomas-Llangynwyd
Morgan-Garw / Sirhowy
Richards - Bettws
Philips - Rhondda
Pinn - London