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Name dilemma!!!Completed!
« on: Thursday 06 April 06 13:04 BST (UK) »
I have a bit of a name dilemma that i was hoping someone could help me with as i am baffled beyond belief. I posted a request a few days ago and someone very kindly found this for me:
1861 census Bettws
Lynycoed cottage
Rees Griffiths head 44 Blacksmith b. Llandilo parish carmarthenshire
Susanna Wife 42 b. Bettws
William son 15 Blacksmith b. Bettws
Jeremiah son 10 b. bettws
Ann dau 8 b. Bettws
Isaac son 3 b. Bettws
The problem is that on the 1851 disc i have it has Rees married to a Mary and i have been told by a cousin that he was actually married to a Tydfil!!! Can anyone help???
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Re: Name dilemma!!!
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 06 April 06 13:13 BST (UK) »
Hi

Do you have any other information that he can be copmpared against?  For example, a later census, etc.

There are many Rees Griffiths living in this area, one of them married to a Mary, however, because the name is so common the results are a little hit and miss.

Do you know where they lived, were born, occupations, etc?

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Re: Name dilemma!!!
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 06 April 06 13:25 BST (UK) »
i have the details foe 1871 at Bettws the Oddfellows arms but i am afraid Rees is a Widower at this point.
Oddfellows Arms
Rees Griffiths head wdr 61 publican b. Bettws
Elizabeth Griffiths dau 6 b. Bettws
Helen Griffiths Grandau 3 b. Bettws
I know from the family that these details are correct but the 1861 seem wrong except its the only Rees with a William the right age as i have William Griffiths married to Hannah in 1871 living at oddfellows row Bettws. Its puzzling me !!!
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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 06 April 06 13:37 BST (UK) »
Possibly a good idea to try and get one of the children birth cert from the 1871 census you know is right.  That way you will know for sure the mothers name.

Have you tied checking census for 'Griffith'  it was very common to be either Griffith/Griffiths as many others

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland


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Re: Name dilemma!!!
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 06 April 06 13:51 BST (UK) »
Do you have Ancestry?  I have found the family in 1861

Rhys 50, collier bettws
wife Mary 53 Llangeiuwe/Langeinwr ? Glam
son William 19? blacksmith, bettws
Elizabeth 14 scholar bettws

same address as 1871 oddfellows public house

All as Griffith on record but image says Griffiths

RG9/4072 Folio 5  Page 6
Bridgend

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Name dilemma!!!
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 06 April 06 13:56 BST (UK) »
That would be the family!!! The only problem is that i dont have ancestry. I managed to get in touch with my cousin again who claims it was Mary he was married to. So do i disregard the details i was given for 1861 or was it a name mistake with the susanna?Thankyou so much for helping me out with this as it puzzles me how the first details were so accurate and yet not!!!
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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 06 April 06 13:57 BST (UK) »
Possible?

Marriages Sep 1839
 
Edmund  Mary    Bridgend  26 429  
Griffith  Rees     Bridgend &c.  26 429
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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 06 April 06 14:04 BST (UK) »
Have included details above for family, I would say that with the same address is is without doubt the right match for 1861 but check what you have on 1851/1871 to see all  are a good match

 Do you have the 1841 for rees , will see if I can locate.

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 06 April 06 14:19 BST (UK) »
1841 - District Bridgend                 

Piece1422/01  Folio 007 /Sch 038

Address BETTWS VILLAGE     

All born in county

REES  GRIFFITH         30   (c1811) COLLIER                         
MARY       "       30   (c1811)
EVAN        "       1   (c1840)

1841 census - Ages 0-15 are given in exact age. Adult ages rounded down to nearest 5

                                   
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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland