pre 1871 lookup please. COMPLETED

[Cas (stallc)]

Looking back over this info I do not think that Llewellyn is Ward's dad, I think it could be wife Elizabeth father, this fits with 1841 info - there is only one Ward on the 1841 right age area and a smith  his father is Jenkin David, also the name of one son on the 1871 also the marriage details below confirm the possibility, but getting the cert would prove it

Marriages Mar 1847
 
David  Elizabeth    Bridgend  26 391   
David  Ward     Bridgend  26 391


Do you want to post details for Ward and father?

Cas

[Chasing-fireflies]

Aaaaaagh!!! Here we go again!! I just keep running into problems with my family!! If its not people with the same name born in the same place at the same its time its people getting married to people with the same surname!! Any details on Wards father would be great! I just assumed that it was his father due to the surname. DOH! I did not even consider the possibility of it being his wifes father. Coed Leyshon is an address i recognise from later census' so if Llewellyn was there first they must of moved in with him later.
Thanks for your help with this. I just keep getting stuck in ruts but it looks like Monday morning i have a few certificates to apply for!
Thanks again.

[Cas (stallc)]

Ok have done a bit of checking on igi...there is a poss that he is not son... but grandson. 

There is a Ward born Coychurch father Aaron, but this does not fit any of your family names  There seem to be 2 but only one comes up on the 1841.  Best to quote the marriage ref at Brigend and see who the father's are. 

I do think Llewellyn is Elizabeths, they are at COED LEYSION  in  1881, so all this info is applicable to one line.  best not go further until you know who his father is.  these are the 1841 details.  Jenkin and Mary are at the same address as a couple in 1851.

Bridgend      Coity Higher           

Piece 1422/07      Folio 005     Sch 016

Address TY DU       

All David all born in county         

JENKIN     70   (c1771) WEAVER                         
MARY        65   (c1776)
WARD       20   (c1821) SMITH                           


If you give me a mo, will see if i can find them both on 1851 to seperate.

Cas

[Chasing-fireflies]

Another jigsaw to fit together then!! When i started doing this family tree i never thought it would be so difficult! I expected a few problems but nowhere near as many as i have had. Thank you so much for helping me out. Hopefully things will be a little more straightforward from here!
Thanks again. 

[Cas (stallc)]

1851 This is defo your Ward with family so the 1841 is yours just have to see who's his dad on marriage cert.  Trouble finding the other, you can't always trust info on IGI

HO107/2461 Folio 19  Page 4  
Bridgend  

Address Gotraheen Row, Llangynwyd Lwr.(Baiden)

All Davies

Ward Davies 31 Coity, Blacksmith
Elizabeth wife 30 Bettws
Llewellin Son 3 Baiden

Cas

[Cas (stallc)]

Found same family on 1861 all David - no sigh yet of other. They are at same address as 1871, there is another Daughter, catherine born 1yr before Llewellyn - Nicholls arms, Llangynwyd  do you have these details?


***of course she is the grandaughter with Llewellyn senior on the 1851***

cas

[Cas (stallc)]

The ony other Ward David with father Aaron mother Keziah from IGI I can find was born 1868.  Perhaps the other died?

Cas

[Chasing-fireflies]

I could not find either on my 1851 disc! It came up with loads of Edwards but not a single Ward! I have the details of them with their children but thanks anyway as i didnt have an address prior to them living at Coed Leyshon. Strange names the parents have though, maybe the marriage certificate will confirm the father unless i get the wrong one, which would be just my luck. I have the reference that you gave me though so i should be safe this time!!! Fingers crossed. I would say that the parents may of died or moved away perhaps and Ward stayed with the Grandparents. I gues that the certificate will put me on the right road anyhow.
thanks again, i know i keep saying it but i really do appreciate it!!!
 

[Cas (stallc)]

If you quote just give Ward David and Elizabeth do not give her surname as there is a liz thomas with same ref, I think you will find he married a David.  There are not many 'Wards' so you should get the right cert.  The reg offices are great to help as long as you will buy the cert they will help with info over the phone. Jenkin maybe his father.

Jenkin is prob first name given from a maiden name way back.  I have a Jenkin in my tree, but not a David.

Glad to help, if you need more give a shout, if I can help I will.  You do need the certs to clarify unfortunately.

Cas : )