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Need help please with baptisms of 4 brothers
« on: Wednesday 14 June 06 22:52 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone

I am trying to locate baptisms of the following children:

William Sutton b. abt. 1810 Aughton
Thomas Sutton b. abt. 1811 poss Thornton
Robert Sutton b. abt. 1816 poss Netherton
John Sutton b. abt. 1819 poss Sefton

Their father was William Sutton and poss mother Ellen nee Glover.

Their mother died between 1819 and 1825 as their father re-married in 1825 at Sefton a widower.  The first marriage was maybe 1806 if it was Ellen Glover that he married.  I have been through the registers for Sefton Church and can find no listings for the children.  I know this is a long shot, but I have really got stuck with this one.  I spent time at Preston last year and with being a novice with the machines, time ran out for me.

To be able to get this one sorted, I am restricting my searches to the Baptism's only for now, in the hope of finding them.  Halsall, Melling, Maghull, Lydiate, Litherland  etc. are all possible areas, if anyone looking in these areas finds one, I know a big ask, but you get no where till you do, can you please let me know.  I would really appreciate it very much.

Regards

Pam
 
Ainsworth, Meletto/Milito/Maletto-Bolton, <br />Blackmore- Widnes, Radcliffe, Devon.<br />Boyes- Devon, Kent.<br />Bradley- Windle, Sefton<br />Fisher- Blackburn, St Helens<br />Greenhalgh- Bury, Radcliffe, USA<br />Hennefer/Hennifer/Henefer/Henneford- Bolton, Derbyshire, Staffordshire, Worc, Warw,<br />Kenwright- Widnes, Runcorn<br />Knowles- Sefton, Formby<br />Sutton- Homer Green, Sefton, Lunt, St Helens, Formby<br />Thompson- St Helens<br />Thrush- St Helens, Yorks.<br />Ware-Devon, Surrey

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Re: Need help please with baptisms of 4 brothers
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 June 06 23:24 BST (UK) »
Have you looked on www.familysearch.org

there is an Ann Sutton parents as you mentioned - born 17th April 1809 christened at St Nicholas Liverpool 30th April 1809
& a Thomas christened 21st Dec 1806 Holy Trinity Wavertree

Maybe they lived in Liverpool for a while??

Cal
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Re: Need help please with baptisms of 4 brothers
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 June 06 00:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Cal

I have seen one listing and thought maybe it was Thomas.  Thomas may have died after William was born and they named the next son Thomas.  Ann I had not seen and well worth checking out.  Although there is no mention of an Ann in any census's, but she may have died early also.

It was not that strange for people to move all over the show.

Thank you

Pam
Ainsworth, Meletto/Milito/Maletto-Bolton, <br />Blackmore- Widnes, Radcliffe, Devon.<br />Boyes- Devon, Kent.<br />Bradley- Windle, Sefton<br />Fisher- Blackburn, St Helens<br />Greenhalgh- Bury, Radcliffe, USA<br />Hennefer/Hennifer/Henefer/Henneford- Bolton, Derbyshire, Staffordshire, Worc, Warw,<br />Kenwright- Widnes, Runcorn<br />Knowles- Sefton, Formby<br />Sutton- Homer Green, Sefton, Lunt, St Helens, Formby<br />Thompson- St Helens<br />Thrush- St Helens, Yorks.<br />Ware-Devon, Surrey

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Re: Need help please with baptisms of 4 brothers
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 15 June 06 21:46 BST (UK) »
Pam
Do you know Williams occupation?

Dotty
Braithwaite,Roney,Hartley,Jackson,Reed, Cumberland /Westmorland .Livesey,Hartley,Taylor,Sefton,Harrison,Knowles,Lancashire.Bottomley,Schofield,Woodhouse ,Hobson ,Norcliffe  and Hartley West Yorkshire.Bottomley Dumfrieshire and Lanarkshire.Pinder ,Warwickshire.Kisby ,Cambridgeshire

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Re: Need help please with baptisms of 4 brothers
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 15 June 06 23:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Dotty

Yes, he was a labourer and then a farmer by the time of the 1841 census.

Pam
Ainsworth, Meletto/Milito/Maletto-Bolton, <br />Blackmore- Widnes, Radcliffe, Devon.<br />Boyes- Devon, Kent.<br />Bradley- Windle, Sefton<br />Fisher- Blackburn, St Helens<br />Greenhalgh- Bury, Radcliffe, USA<br />Hennefer/Hennifer/Henefer/Henneford- Bolton, Derbyshire, Staffordshire, Worc, Warw,<br />Kenwright- Widnes, Runcorn<br />Knowles- Sefton, Formby<br />Sutton- Homer Green, Sefton, Lunt, St Helens, Formby<br />Thompson- St Helens<br />Thrush- St Helens, Yorks.<br />Ware-Devon, Surrey

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Re: Need help please with baptisms of 4 brothers
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 June 06 23:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Pam

You are right it was not that unusual for folk to travel about .... my Ingram side were in  Dorset, London, France, Wales then back to London from 1811 to early 1900s, they have been a challenge I can tell you.

From the info on IGI I would guess that Ann probably did not make it and it was not uncommon to rename children after deceased ones so your theory on Thomas is probably correct, these days we would not entertain that one at all  :o
Good luck

Cal



UK Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk                Bigg-Sheppey/West Ham<br />Dodd - Cheshire <br />Ingram - Dorset, London, Morlaix, Australia, California<br />Kerfoot - Warrington, Pemberton, St Asaph<br />McKinneley - N Ireland, Liverpool <br />Marshall - Midlothian, Cheshire<br />Morrish-Chelsea<br />Shiel - Melrose<br />Woodhall- Liverpool, Shropshire/Staffordshire<br />Dagliesh- Melrose<br />Stevenson - Melrose<br />Smith & Jones! Scotland & Wales

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Re: Need help please with baptisms of 4 brothers
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 June 06 22:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Cal

I keep wondering how people are able to get back to 1066!!   :D  That would be really cool. 

I wish all parish registers would be made available, even if it is only on certain days of the year.  The church in Sefton where I got a lot of info from, hold open days on the Monday of a Bank Holiday.  The registers are there for you to go through or someone will go through them with you, it's great.  I only wish they had been in there, would have saved me loads of time and deisel!! :D


Thanks for your help Cal.

Pam
Ainsworth, Meletto/Milito/Maletto-Bolton, <br />Blackmore- Widnes, Radcliffe, Devon.<br />Boyes- Devon, Kent.<br />Bradley- Windle, Sefton<br />Fisher- Blackburn, St Helens<br />Greenhalgh- Bury, Radcliffe, USA<br />Hennefer/Hennifer/Henefer/Henneford- Bolton, Derbyshire, Staffordshire, Worc, Warw,<br />Kenwright- Widnes, Runcorn<br />Knowles- Sefton, Formby<br />Sutton- Homer Green, Sefton, Lunt, St Helens, Formby<br />Thompson- St Helens<br />Thrush- St Helens, Yorks.<br />Ware-Devon, Surrey