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McCowan/McGowan
« on: Sunday 18 June 06 18:13 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help me with the birth date of Jane McCowan/McGowan please. I think it may be around 1861-1865.                                    She married John Clark Hairstens in 1882 at St.Giles, Edinburgh.
Could you also help with any dates and info on her parents please ?  Robert (?) McCowan/McGowan and Sarah Cairns.
Thank you very much.

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Re: McCowan/McGowan
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 June 06 22:18 BST (UK) »
Foz

Just bits of info as I haven't viewed any certs. just done some searches. There is no birth of a Jane McG(C)owan in the period you are looking at with parents Robert and Sarah. There is however this:

JANE CAIRNS Birth: 14 JUL 1862  Central District, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Parents:Mother: SARAH CAIRNS    

There is a simultaneous entry for the same birth in Stirling:
14 JUL 1862       Kirkintilloch, Dunbarton, Scotland

I can't remember the fine detail, perhaps someone else can, but I think this normally means that the baby was born away from the mother's usual place of residence and was therefore registered in both places.

These details, extracted birth records on IGI, normally indicate that the child was illegitimate.

In respect of Sarah, there is no marriage entry showing for her to a McGowan either on IGI or on Scotlands People post 1855. There is though a death entry showing on SP in 1882 in Anderston, Glasgow City for a Sarah McGowan, other name Cairns, born 1813.

I can also see her in the 1881 Census I think:

Sarah McGowan, Lodger, Widowed, age 60, Tailoress, b.Ireland
Francis McReddie, Head, married, age 25, Puddler, b. Glasgow
Hannah McReddie, Wife, age 24, Winder in cotton mill, b. Kirkintiloch, Stirling

Address: 46 Rose Street, Govan, Lanark

Given the birth entry in Kirkintilloch, I wondered if there was some connection between Sarah and the Hannah showing in the 1881 Census.

It would probably be worthwhile you viewing Sarah McGowan's death cert in 1882 to see whether it can provide you with any additional information.

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Re: McCowan/McGowan
« Reply #2 on: Monday 19 June 06 08:07 BST (UK) »
Thank you MoniceaLesl for your info.  I'll have to look into all this.

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Re: McCowan/McGowan
« Reply #3 on: Monday 19 June 06 09:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Foz

From their marriage cert of 1882, Jane's parents were Thomas McGowen, tailor and Sarah, maiden surname Cairns.
Definitely Thomas not Robert.
I'll check out the 1891 for a place of birth.

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Re: McCowan/McGowan
« Reply #4 on: Monday 19 June 06 09:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Foz

I can't locate them on the 1891 but on the 1901, John is dead and Jane is a widow, living 145 High Street, Dumfries with the children you named on the other thread. she is a hosiery seamster, aged 38, born Wigtownshire, Stranraer.

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Re: McCowan/McGowan
« Reply #5 on: Monday 19 June 06 09:59 BST (UK) »
Just checked the Stranraer out and found the birth reg of Jane -

4th September 1862 Jane McCowen, Father Thomas McCowen, Tailor journeyman and Sarah, maiden surname Cairns. Residence - Castle St., Stranraer.
The parents married 7 January 1851, Old Luce.

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Re: McCowan/McGowan
« Reply #6 on: Monday 19 June 06 10:20 BST (UK) »
On the 1871 Census, Thomas and Sarah McGowan are living at London Road Stranraer
Thomas, 49, Tailor, workman, born Wigtown, Glenluce
Sarah, 45, Ireland
James, 17, tailor workman, b. Glenluce
Annie, 14,
Jane, 8,
Elizabeth, 6
Janie or Jennie, 3
Isabella, 19 , sewing and housework, b. Glenluce

The other children all born Stranraer.

I'll have to check death certs for parents of Thomas and Sarah. Both are deceased on Jane's marriage cert.

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Re: McCowan/McGowan
« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 June 06 10:41 BST (UK) »
This is getting very strange  ??? If Monica's 1881 find of Sarah the widow is correct - and it seems so then Thomas died 1871-1881:

The only death of a Thomas McGowan/variations that I can find is of a Thomas Hairstane McGowan in Dumfries in 1872, aged 50. Fine, but he was the husband of an Agnes Miller.

The only bpt. that I can find anywhere in Scotland 1818-1824 of a Thomas McGowan is of a Thomas Hairtane McGowan, Dumfries 23 Mar 1822, son of William McGowan and Jean, maiden surname Hairtane.

The only other explanation is that they were either RC - Sarah born Ireland or that they belonged to a breakaway Presbyterian group. The RC seems the most likely.

The death, though is strange. he would have had to be registered  ??? ??? ???

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Re: McCowan/McGowan
« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 June 06 13:30 BST (UK) »
I don't think the Glasgow Sarah is the correct one. She was the widow of a Patrick McGowan, boilermaker. Also her age at death, 69 in 1882, is out if Sarah married to Thomas was c.45 in 1871.

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