Maria Barber b. 20 Sep 1794

[Carole4]

I am looking for infomation about
Maria[h] Barber born 20 Sept 1794, or her husband.
She married Jonathan Batchelder born 02 Apr 1785.
According to the IGI, they married 20 Sept 1819, Broome, Norfolk, England.

They had several children between 1820 - 1837.
I have only been able to find the baptism of one daughter,
CAROLINE ELEANOR BACHELOR -  Female Birth: 10 DEC 1833
CAROLINE ELEANOR BACHELOR -Christening: 03 JAN 1834
 Independent, Bungay, Suffolk, England
Father:  JONATHAN BACHELOR 
Mother:  MARIA BARBER
[from the IGI]

Their other children were:
Osburn Batchelder b. 15 Sept 1820  England
Charles Batchelder b. 08 Feb 1822  England
Rosanna M. Batchelder b. 18 Mar 1827 England
Sarah Ann Batchelder b. 16 Apr 1829  England
George Batchelder b. 09 May 1831  England
Benjamin Joseph Batchelder b. 24 Aug 1837 Canada

They immigrated to Canada c.1836 on the Brig. Morning Star, from Norfolk.
In the 1851 Canadian Census,
Jonathan is 68 YOA
Maria[h] is 58 YOA both b. England;   Religion: Episcopalian

I would like to place Maria/Mariah & Jonathan with their parents.
Both birth dates comes from their headstones.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Carole

[mantaray]

Hi Carole,
The NFHS marr cd give the marr as 19th Sept 1819 Broome
for Maria Barber & Jonathan Batchelder,you have the birth dates for these two ,do you know which parish ?

Regards Ray

[The Yokel]

Hi

Broome Parish Register (Marriages 1813-1837) page 5 No.14

Jonathan Batchelder of Hedenham single man and Maria Barber single woman of this Parish were married in this Church by License with consent of Parents on 20 September 1819
both of them signed the register in the presence of William Crowe and James Tilman (I think)

couldn't find any reference to Maria's baptism

regards
yokel

[Valda]

You should only need consent of parents if you marry under age (21). If either of the parties was under age the licence would give further details of who was giving the person permission to marry, ususally the father. If the marriage allegation has survived it should be in Norfolk Record Office.

Regards

Valda

[Carole4]

Thank You all so much for the information.
I appreciate your help & advice.
and especially the marriage details!
Now I can place them in/at a village
at the time of their marriage.
That alone makes the years of research worth it!
I am just thrilled over these new details
Best Wishes
Carole

[The Yokel]

Hi

If your birth dates are correct, then why would they be married by license? 


yokel

[Valda]

You could marry be licence or by banns. By obtaining a marriage licence, a couple did not have to wait three weeks for the banns to be read in church. 

In 1820 (when the average Ag. Lab was earning 10s a week), the cost of calling the 3 marriage banns was 7s. 6d. and was required in both parishes - which is why on so many marriages both parties happen to be of the same parish (as in the last three weeks only) to save on the cost. Marriage licences in comparison in 1820 cost 10 shillings, plus the cost of the trip and loss of the day's wages to visit the local Bishop's Office to obtain the licence in the first place.

Whether you married by banns or licence if you were under age (under 21) you still needed a parent or guardian's permission.

Regards

Valda

[egeriaboy]

I am actively researching the Batchelder/Batchelor name in Norfolk and Suffolk UK, due to my maternal family connection.

Jonathan Batchelder is a name I recognize, but isn't so far as I can tell, connected to my 'clan' yet.
I think he was actually baptized in Sisland Norfolk December 6 1786, son of Jonathan Batchelor (1732-1819) and Elizabeth nee Whitton. This couple had married in Sisland April 12 1774 and had 13 children of which Jonathan was the 11th.

The surname alternated between Batchelder and Batchelor through the generations.

[egeriaboy]

Also fyi the brig 'Morning Star' left Yarmouth for Quebec City on April 13 1836.

Spellings of surname are variously Batchelder/Batcheldor or Batchelor.

Although Jonathan was living in Hedenham Norfolk at the time of his marriage to Maria, they married in Broome Norfolk in 1819 as this was his wife's parish. I suspect Jonathan is the son of a large farming family of Batchelders that lived in Sisland Norfolk.