Census Information Paddick family Completed

[Tati]

I'm told assuming is never safe 

I do think he looks good, but I also think you need proof. Unfortunately, I can't see William's marriage to Jane (the cert would tell you his father's name and occupation). Do you happen to know her maiden name, by any chance?

Interestingly, when you do a search for John Paddick on www.familysearch.org , they show Paddick/Paddock/Paddgogg etc. variants (unfortunately, I can't see yours however) 

Searching again, I must say I can't see any other possible match...

[Tati]

Intriguing that I can't find the marriage. I see Thomas H was born a Paddick (birth registered in Dec 1886 Pontypridd). I can see a marriage in Pontypridd 1884 for a William Paddick, but the possible spouses are Eliza Pengellie or Mary Charlotte Philips.
I also see a marriage, Taunton 1890, for William Paddick to possibly Jane Towning (and there is a Jane Towning born Long Sutton Somerset ca. 1862 on the 1871 and 1881 census).

Now I'm wondering whether this is a 2nd marriage, perhaps... There is an Eliza Pengelly at Ystradyfodwg in 1871 and 1881, born ca. 1863, and an Eliza Paddick dying in Dec 1888 age 25, but her death is registered in Pontypool registration district 

 

[Danae]

I've looked at the death record for Eliza Paddick - although the search gives Pontypool the actual record says Pontypridd!!

That would make Eliza the mother of Thomas Henry Paddick born 1887and Jane the mother of William J Paddick, born 1892, Henry Paddick born & died 1894 & Mildred Paddick born 1897.

The dates all fit!

I'm trying to link these Paddicks to James Isaac Paddick born in 1913 - my husbands grandfather. His mothers maiden name was Cross.

[Danae]

The death record for Eliza Paddick is immediately followed by Ernest Albert Paddick aged 0

I wonder if she died in childbirth

[Tati]

DOH!! I didn't even check the original, when I so badly wanted it to be Pontypridd!!   

[Tati]

The only Paddick/Cross marriage that I can see at first is

William John Paddick / Harriet Cross, June 1894 Taunton 5c 572

but I can't see the couple in 1901 

[Danae]

I saw that one too but it doesn't tie in.

William J Paddick, son of William Paddick was born in 1891 so it can't be him

His father William Paddick was married to Jane at that time so it can't be him either (i hope!!!)

I suppose there's a possibility that Ms Cross had been married before she married a Paddick  so although her maiden name is shown as Cross she could have been something else when she married Mr. Paddick

The son James Isaac Paddick was born in 1913 - seems a bit of a long time after the 1894 marriage...could squeeze another generation in there.

I think I might have to get James' birth certificate to help on this one.

[Tati]

So what do you know about James Isaac's father for sure?

Looking at FreeBMD coverage for marriages, I see 1890-1910 is complete. There was an Arthur J Paddick mother's maiden name Cross born in Sep 1911 at Bridgend, and a few other children from 1901 on, in a sort of one-every-2-years pace that could suggest it is one and the same family producing children.

Yes, I agree, you'd need the birth cert   

[Tati]

Perhaps a red herring but here goes ...

Given that we have found the 1894 marriage and that there aren't any deaths for William J or Martha Harriet between 1894 and 1901, I had a thorough look at the 1901 census ...  and come up with this:

RG13/5043 12 16
Bettws, Glamorgan (Bridgend registration district)
Moelgula Fach
William J Parrey, head, 27, Colliery Labourer underground, b. Hatch Parish Somerset
Harriet, wife, 28, b. Somerset Golden Hill
William T, son, 5, b. Somerset Taunton
Mary Annie, dau, 1, b. Cardiff

Their neighbours are called Cross (Thomas age 30 from Somerset and family).

Now I can't see a matching birth registration for a Mary Annie Parrey or Parry in Cardiff, but there is a Mary Ann Paddick June 1899 Cardiff. There's also a William T Paddick registered in Taunton in Dec 1896 (but none called Parry or Parrey). I can't see a matching William Parr(e)y on previous census either.

So: Does anybody think Paddick could have be misunderstood as Parrey?

    

If so, then this could be a possible match for him in 1881:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=18473902