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1851 census Wiltshire
« on: Monday 22 November 04 11:55 GMT (UK) »
William Giddings married in Wootton Rivers on 29/03/1851 but does not appear with his new wife on the census.  On his marriage cert his is living in Cricklade St Sampson as a labourer.  Would really appreciate it if someone could confirm that he made it back there in time for the census and any further details available.  Not sure where he was born but his father's name is Charles and may be from Bishops Cannings but not confirmed.
Big thank you!!

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Re: 1851 census Wiltshire
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 November 04 20:27 GMT (UK) »
Sorry can find noone with the name Giddings in the 51 census for Cricklade St Sampson. Tried Cricklade St Marys as well and also tried Bishops Cannings where I found a few Giddings but alas no William or Charles (The oldest Giddings there is 40
Sorry Kris  :'(
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Re: 1851 census Wiltshire
« Reply #2 on: Friday 26 November 04 14:49 GMT (UK) »
teabag,

Is there any other information you can give us e.g. William's age on the marriage cert (if he was obliging enough to give it ::) ) and his wife's name. We could perhaps widen the search a bit in case they were staying with other relatives.

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Angela
Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk<br /><br />Especially looking for - Sealey, Rogers, Cannings, Box, Sheppard in Wiltshire; Virgin, Slade, Abbott, Saint, Harper, Silverthorn in Somerset; and Virgin, Tarr, Beer in Devon

And most especially the origins of William Cannings,  a Baptist, born abt 1791 in Broughton Gifford, Wiltshire


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Re: 1851 census Wiltshire
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 28 November 04 20:57 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all your work so far.  In answer to your question Angela, on the marriage certificate he was of full age (really useful!).  He married Ann Berrett who lived in Wooton Rivers with her family both before and after the marriage.  We have traced her family back through a number of generations in Wootton Rivers and earlier in Wilcot.  The only reference we have to William is his marriage certificate and a birth certificate for his son Frank in Wootton Rivers in the June of the same year as the marriage.  He was dead by 1881 when Frank was living with his mother in London.
Appreciate your help with this elusive figure!

Suzanne

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Re: 1851 census Wiltshire
« Reply #4 on: Monday 29 November 04 10:14 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all your work so far.  In answer to your question Angela, on the marriage certificate he was of full age (really useful!).  He married Ann Berrett who lived in Wooton Rivers with her family both before and after the marriage.  We have traced her family back through a number of generations in Wootton Rivers and earlier in Wilcot.  The only reference we have to William is his marriage certificate and a birth certificate for his son Frank in Wootton Rivers in the June of the same year as the marriage.  He was dead by 1881 when Frank was living with his mother in London.
Appreciate your help with this elusive figure!

Suzanne

I think I've found the family in 1871, as you can see it seems William had died before that year:

Andrew L Ash 34  Chippenham, Wiltshire, England Sis Husband  Lambeth  London   
Francis I Ash 3  Notting Hill, Middlesex, England Nephew  Lambeth  London   
Sarah Ash 30  Wooton River, Wiltshire, England Sister  Lambeth  London   
Ann Giddings 47  Wooton Rivers, Wiltshire, England Head  Lambeth  London   
Frank Giddings 19  Wooton Rivers, Wiltshire, England Son  Lambeth  London   
Frederick W Giddings 12  Brixton, Surrey, England Son  Lambeth  London



RG10/685 Folio 40 Page 28     
Street address: 26, Sussex Road
Lambeth    

These are all the William Giddings, that I can find, who died in Wiltshire between 1851 and 1871:

GIDDINGS, William 1852 June Bradford upon Avon Somerset Wiltshire 5a 90
Giddings, William 1854 December Pewsey Wiltshire 5a 103
Giddings, William 1855 December Pewsey Wiltshire 5a 109
Giddings, William 1855 March Devizes Wiltshire 5a 76
Giddings, William 1859 September Devizes Wiltshire 5a 51
Giddings, William 1863 March Dursley Gloucestershire Wiltshire 6a 166
Giddings, William 1869 March Hungerford Berkshire Hampshire Wiltshire 2c 181
Giddings, William 1870 September Devizes Wiltshire 5a 62
Giddings, William 1871 March Warminster Wiltshire 5a

Couple for Lambeth too, though this looks a bit like the same person recorded twice:

Giddings, William 1858 September Lambeth Greater London London Surrey 1d 267
Giddings, William 1858 September Lambeth Greater London London Surrey 1d 269


Any help?

Liam
London(Wapping, Whitechapel, Camberwell): Collins, Ryan, Sullivan.
Wiltshire(Bradford, North Bradley): Turner.
Hampshire(Alton): Warner.

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Re: 1851 census Wiltshire
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 30 November 04 21:28 GMT (UK) »
Liam

Thank you for this ;D.  Really useful.  It narrows the search down for him considerably as we now know where he wasn't.  Frederick became a doctor and moved to Ireland so it all fits in place.  Assuming Fred is bio son then we have a 13 year period to find his death and then a possible birth date and place.

Many thanks.

Suzanne

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Re: 1851 census Wiltshire
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 02 December 04 20:22 GMT (UK) »
Liam

Thank you for this ;D.  Really useful.  It narrows the search down for him considerably as we now know where he wasn't.  Frederick became a doctor and moved to Ireland so it all fits in place.  Assuming Fred is bio son then we have a 13 year period to find his death and then a possible birth date and place.

Many thanks.

Suzanne

My pleasure. Keep chipping away. I suppose Fred's birth certificate would tell you whether William was a) still living then and b) give you an address close to the time of the 1861 census which someone in the London forum could probably search for you.

Liam
London(Wapping, Whitechapel, Camberwell): Collins, Ryan, Sullivan.
Wiltshire(Bradford, North Bradley): Turner.
Hampshire(Alton): Warner.

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Re: 1851 census Wiltshire
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 May 05 08:50 BST (UK) »
Wondering how you got on with this. Did you ever find the death. By the 1861 census Ann is a Widow

RG9/364 Folio 101 Page 18
26 Sussex Road
Lambeth Surrey


GIDDINGS Ann Head 37 Widow b Woolton Rivers Wiltshire Laundress
GIDDINGS Frank Son 9 b Woolton Rivers Wiltshire
GIDDINGS George Son 8 b (Comiack)? Wiltshire
GIDDINGS Frederick Son 3 b Sussex Road
BENNETT Sarah Sister 20 Unm b Woolton Servant

Hope it helps....Kris  :D
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Re: 1851 census Wiltshire
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 27 July 05 14:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Kris

finally catching up with all these bits.  WE found his death when Fred was about 3months  old.  Still haven't found him in 1851 or 41.  So still don't know where he came from!
Will keep chipping away.
Suzanne