Shirrefs/Gordons of Craig Castle Rhynie

[learmond]

James Francis Gordon Shirrefs (or Shirrefs Gordon) was my husbands great, great grandfather.

My husbands great grandfather was James's son John Lumsden Gordon Shirrefs, (married to Elsie Spring and previously married to Elizabeth Cree)

If anyone can help with any information regarding John Lumsden Gordon Shirrefs, it would be most helpful.

Thanks a lot,

Jean Gordon

[Ann Baker]

Hi Jean

Not finding anything in Rhynie for Shirrefs but there are several listed in Scotland;s People in Aberdeen area. Howver can confirm there is no marriage for James Shirrefs to either Elsie Spring or Elizabeth Cree pre 1855

Without any dates is difficult to find out more.

Ann

[learmond]

Hi Ann,

    Thank you for your reply.

The date of John Lumsden Gordon Shirrefs marriage to Elsie Spring was April 1897 in the district of Marleybone.
The address given was Knowsie House, Aberdeenshire

They had a son Ian Lional Victor Lumsden Gordon Shirrefs in 1901 in Hastings, this is our relative.

They also had a son James (Francis? ) born approx. 1898, this is the relative I cannot find any information on, he may have died in infancy, all I have is a birth certificate.

If you could help it would be appreciated.

Jean

[Ann Baker]

Hi Jean

Unfortunately births after 1906 are not available on line via Scotland's People. However you can email the General Registrar for Scotland who will be able to provide the details for you. The records at GROS go up to 2006.

Cheers

Ann

[learmond]

Hi Ann,

  I stated the birth date of James  date as 1998, this should have read 1898.

Also the Marraige should have read1897

Jean

[Ann Baker]

Hi jean

Nothing coming up for a death for James that would match a birth year of 1898 +/- 5. There are some in Aberdeenshire on Scotland's People who would have been born later.

To check these you'd need to invest in some credits at Scotland's People and work your way through therm.

In terms of John I have found the following at SP which I believe to be his first marriage to Elizabeth Cree.

1892 SHIRREFS-GORDON JOHN LUMSDEN CREE ELIZABETH TAYLO DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0396


There is no marriage of course on SP for Elsie because it took place in London (Tho I did check just in case)


then there is Elizabeth's death cert 1934 SHIRREFS ELIZABETH T   CREE F 68 SCOTSTOUN AND YOKER GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/23 0024

Hope this is helpful

Ann

[BrianJohn]

To Ann Baker / Jean Gordon
Re: Gordon's of Craig

My great grandparents were - John Gordon Lumsden Shirrefs (formerly John Lumsden Shirrefs Gordon) & Elizabeth Taylor Cree.  Also,  Jean Gordon's husbands g.g.g. grandfather was Lt.-Col. Alexander Shirrefs - the (1st) Lumsden Shirrefs family,  prior to 1870,  were cousins rather than ancestors.

Finally,  I may have a photograph of Ian Lionel Victor Lumsden Gordon Shirrefs (c.1919) or perhaps his brother,  James Francis Gordon Lumsden Shirrefs.

Have limited access to Email & the internet.     Regards BrianJohn.

[BrianJohn]

To: old rowley / Jim.S / Ann Baker / Jean Gordon

The descendants of David Shirras/Shirreff (etc) & Jean Lunan,  from about 1780 onwards,  settled on the following spelling of their surname Shirrefs despite determined efforts by session clerks and others to alter it !

There are three 'Shirrefs' gravestones in St. Nicholas churchyard - descendants of David Shirrefs & Jean Lunan inc. spouses,  unfortunately,  this information does not appear in A. Strath Maxwell's MI book or A&NEFHS's online MI Index.

Hope this information sheds a little light on the Shirrefs family.    BrianJohn

[jim.s]

To BrianJohn

Could you please let me know the names of the three 'Shirref's
gravestones in St Nicholas churchyard, I'm looking for famliy buried
in there somewere.

Kind Regards
                       Jim.S