Transcription Request: Elizabeth Jude??

[heywood]

thanks for that David- I never knew. I always think of a song my dad used to like, "I am a roving journey man, I go from town to town"
I have seen quite a few references to journeymen and always imagined them wandering.

best wishes
heywood

[PabloC]

Yes, thanks for that David.

So, he was self-employed in effect. That info should help in narrowing down the search for his death certificate etc.

Just paid on a daily basis, as opposed to self employed...having one of those days again!

Regards

Paul

[behindthefrogs]

The main distinction is between journeyman and master.  Where a master was frequently but not always the employer and could have journeymen and apprentices working for him.  It is a term still used in some trades today for someone who has completed his apprenticeship but not yet established himself or gained enough experience to be termed a master of the trade.

The payment by the day was historic but shows that the terms of employment were a lot less secure than for a master.  I am not suggesting that you wouldn't find a journeyman working on his own as it was always a statement of status as much as anything.

David

[PabloC]

Eveing All, 

Just started to have another quick look at this line of my family tree again tonight, although admittedly, I haven't yet got round to obtaining the birth certs of either William Thomas Alexander or John Alexander yet...been spending my money on certs for other branches of the tree!! 

However....just decided to take a quick, fresh look at it tonight, as and found the following, possibly interesting stuff:

Assuming the Alexander/Pearson link is okay, given other matching evidence I've accumulated so far, I was looking for census data on Elizabeth's father Thomas Pearson.

...and found a Jude Pearson on Familysearch in the process...the child of a Robert and Frances Pearson,born in 1778, christened i n Bromfield (a sub-area of Crosthwaite)!! 

Now, I know this DoB is even some 27 years before the 1806/7 birth of Elizabeth's father Thomas, but I wonder if this might be a relation of Elizabeth's father perhaps???

The area is correct, as I've located Thomas, his wife Mary, and a couple of their younger children on the 1861 England Census, still up in Cumberland, where Thomas is stated as being from Bromfield. (EDIT: and a Weaver by trade, although earlier Census returns have him as a Loomer, and one as a Wool Sorter or Shearer)

Hmm, Coincidence? Any thoughts?

I really must get round to buying one/both of those certificates!!!

Paul

[carol8353]

I really must get round to buying one/both of those certificates!!!

Paul

Yes Paul - you really must 

Will give your current musings more thought tomorrow,when hopefully I'll be more awake 

Carol

[PabloC]

....And.....

I've just noticed that Elizabeth also had a younger sister called Frances (b. 1846 in Crosthwaite, to Thomas and Mary Pearson - IGI).

Named after her Great Grandmother perhaps??  A guess I know, but a semi-educated one at that, as she appears again on the 1851 England census aged 5 along with a 20year old Elizabeth and other numerous siblings!...

William Colson   26    Lodger
David Crowden  22    Lodger
E Pearson          20    Daughter
F Pearson            5    Daughter
John Pearson     18    Son 
Judah Pearson   17    Son
L Pearson            2    Daughter   
M Pearson          45   Wife
M Pearson            9   Daughter
T Pearson            13  Son
Thomas Pearson  44  Head

Actually, the Ancestry transcription appears to have gone a bit pear-shaped (EDIT:When compared against the census image) as regards the sex of the children, however, what with Judah being clearly visible I'm not too concerned!




Paul

[PabloC]

Evening All 

I finally did it....I finally ordered the birth certificate of William and Elizabeth's firstborn William Thomas Alexander, who was born in 1861, and died as a baby.

Excellent news....it states that the mother was 'Elizabeth Alexander, formerly Pearson' 

So that's it....the verification needed to connect the Alexander name to the Pearson surname. Mystery solved, and I can now progress back with some confidence!!

I'd just like to thank all of those who spent lots of time puzzling over this interesting line for me, especially Carol, Lizdb, JAP, Heywood, CatOne and Gallium for their key discoveries etc!!!

Many thanks...!

Paul

[carol8353]

Excellent news....it states that the mother was 'Elizabeth Alexander, formerly Pearson' 

I'd just like to thank all of those who spent lots of time puzzling over this interesting line for me, especially Carol, Lizdb, JAP, Heywood, CatOne and Gallium for their key discoveries etc!!!

Excellent news indeed Paul......what a team we are 

Carol

[heywood]

what good news! well done and best wishes to all   
heywood