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Re: help needed with a mystery relative
« Reply #9 on: Monday 15 October 07 08:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Welshjo,

that looks positive.
Now we might be able to follow up on one of the brothers.
In one of the letters she stated that one of her brothers died age 46.
So if it was Cyril he should have his death registered in 1958, or thereabouts and if Brindley (I presume this is a guys name) then the death date would be circa 1960.

her sister died age 58, but no name given, only that she had a daughter who died age 35, leaving 4 children who Ivy raised. This might be in the too hard basket.  ;D

thanks, one step further to finding them out.
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« Reply #10 on: Monday 15 October 07 08:48 BST (UK) »
hope it helps
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Re: help needed with a mystery relative
« Reply #11 on: Monday 15 October 07 09:04 BST (UK) »
There is a death
Cyril matthews
b. 9 feb 1912
d.Aug 1984
age 72
Pontypridd
27 978

there are Brinley deaths after 1983but they have middlenames and I can find their births (different mother) -so looks like brinley died earlier

You wouldn't believe how many brinley matthews there are !!!!!

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Re: help needed with a mystery relative
« Reply #12 on: Monday 15 October 07 09:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Suz,
that has to be the same Cyril, thankyou.

I can't believe that there was lots of Brinley Matthews, is Brinley a common Welsh name.  I have never heard of it before.

thankyou, not have any luck finding a marriage for Ivy Matthews to a Howells.   ::)

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Re: help needed with a mystery relative
« Reply #13 on: Monday 15 October 07 09:57 BST (UK) »
I am reading back over the letters - now with a different view to them.

She was not the best with her handwriting. :'(
This is an example of what she wrote
"Well my mother was a daughter (one of them) of my grandfather"
Really!! ;D

Sorry, being a little synical here, anyway have found a couple of new things that might be of more use now.

"I am now 76 years old yesterday" this letter is dated June 12th 1983.
So, by my calculations she was born on the 11th june 1907.
I suppose she could have been registered in the Sept. qtr and be the Ivy Kathleen Matthews.

Also in another letter dated 1983, she states that only her and one brother left - perhaps this is Cyril she is referring to.
 
I will keep looking to see what else might help.

Margaret
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Re: help needed with a mystery relative
« Reply #14 on: Monday 15 October 07 10:03 BST (UK) »
ok, letter dated in Feb 1985,
" I missed my brother this year very much . . . I think I told you he died end of August last year.

This is looking real good for Cyril! ;D ;D

Margaret
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Re: help needed with a mystery relative
« Reply #15 on: Monday 15 October 07 14:03 BST (UK) »
There looks like a death for an Ivy Kathleen Howell registered in 1996 somewhere in Glamorgan.
I cant get any further details to appear on this one - maybe someone else can.
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Re: help needed with a mystery relative
« Reply #16 on: Monday 15 October 07 14:13 BST (UK) »
Death
Ivy kathleen Howell
b. 30 mar 1918
died may 1996
age 78
Glamorgan
B1A 148

Suz
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« Reply #17 on: Monday 15 October 07 14:17 BST (UK) »
Welsh boys names

Bryn =Welsh for Hill, popular for boys -also variations Brynn, Brynley, Brinley


(Brinley is used for girls too present day!)

English names
Brinley, male name = Burnt meadow

I think I'd stick to the Welsh meaning!

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk