1861/1871 Census-Nance in Cardiff area

[Jo3]

I have recently found a family which in 1881 census (on-line)appears to be living at 9 Kymin Terr., Penarth, Glamorgan Ref: RG 11/5289/16/28 by the name of JAMES.  I think it should read NANCE and would be greatful if someone could check it with the original data for me.  William E JAMES/NANCE was 43 yrs. and a coal merchant born Padstow, Cornwall.

If possible could the 1861/1871 census be checked to see if they were still there then.

There are 3 other NANCE families which are in Wales in 1881 census I would liked to see if they were at the same address in 1861/1871.

Emily and family were living at 16 Longcross St., Roath, Glamorgan. (Husband was a mariner).
Horatio and Emma were at Cowbridge Rd., Sydney Villa, Cardiff St John.
Henry was at 14 Stacey Rd., Roath., Glamorgan in 1881 and was a widower by 1881.  This might be the more likely location as the others had children under 10 yrs. old.

The family appears to have moved a couple of times between Cornwall and Wales and it would be nice to find where they were in 1861/1871. 

Any information on the family would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Jo3

[casalguidi]

See 1871 census William E NANCE:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=26485.msg100215#msg100215

[casalguidi]

1881 census RG11/5289 folio 16 page 28 says NANCE

9 Kymin Terrace

William E NANCE head mar 43 coal merchant b.Padstow
Jane M wife 37 b.St Ives
Ernest M son 12 b.Cardiff
Alwyn M son 10 b.Cardiff
Robert M son 7 b.Cardiff
Christine M M dau 4 b.Cardiff
Louisa WILLIAMS servant 25 cook b.Methyr
Mary A PEMBERTHY servant 25 nursemaid b.St Ives

Casalguidi

[casalguidi]

1871 census

8 Southey Street, Roath

Henry NANCE head widower 64 accoutant b,Padstow
Lucy dau 30 housekeeper b.Padstow
Horatio son 22 sub postmaster b.Padstow
Alfred son 19 app optician b.Padstow
Emma dau 17 b.Padstow
Horace son 14 b.Padstow
Lenora dau 12 b.Padstow

RG10 5366 folio 50 page 11

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[Welsh Jen]

William E JAMES/NANCE was 43 yrs. and a coal merchant born Padstow, Cornwall.

This is the only entry for the name Nance in 1861 (Glamorganshire):
Glamorgan Family History Society 1861 Census CD
4036 1861 CENSUS OF CARDIFF ST.MARY. REF.R.G.9/4036, E.D.17.                                                                         
Piece: 4036      Folio: 098     Schedule: 128
Address: MOUNT STUART SQ 12     

TROUNCE WILLIAM            HD M  41   SHIPBROKER               
                                      CON BREAGE                       (c1820)
TROUNCE MARY               WI M  38   -                         
                                      CON PENZANCE                     (c1823)
TROUNCE WILLIAM            SO U  18   -                         
                                      CON PENZANCE                     (c1843)
TROUNCE MARIE              DA U  16   -                         
                                      CON PENZANCE                     (c1845)
TROUNCE HENRY              SO U   9   SCHOLAR                   
                                      GLA CARDIFF                      (c1852)
TROUNCE THOMAS             SO U   7   SCHOLAR                   
                                      GLA CARDIFF                      (c1854)
TROUNCE SUSAN              DA U   6   SCHOLAR                   
                                      GLA CARDIFF                      (c1855)
NANCE WILLIAM              BO U  23   COAL MERCHANTS CLERK     
                                      CON PADSTOW                      (c1838)
If you are interested I found this entry within the 1851 census for Glamorgan (These 3 are the only individuals listed in Glamorgan with that surname):

2455 1851 CENSUS OF CARDIFF (NORTH-EAST). REF.H.O.107/2455, E.D.4B.                                                                 

Piece: 2455      Folio: 120     Schedule: 159

Address: 5 WELLINGTON TERRACE   

NANCE WILLIAM              HD M  34   SHIP BROKER               
                                      CON PADSTOW                      (c1817)
NANCE SIBYL E.             WI M  33   -                         
                                      GLA CARDIFF                      (c1818)
NANCE EMILY                DA -   7   -                         
                                      GLA CARDIFF                      (c1844)
DAVIES JANE                SV U  17   HOUSE SERVANT             
                                      GLA PENTYRCH                     (c1834)

Henry was at 14 Stacey Rd., Roath., Glamorgan in 1881 and was a widower by 1881.  This might be the more likely location as the others had children under 10 yrs. old.

You mention a Henry (not sure of dates for him) but here is an 1841 Glamorgan entry for the name:

             Glamorgan Family History Society 1841 Census CD

District Name: Swansea             Enumeration District:  3 Clase (Morriston)     

Piece: 1419/01      Folio: 057     Schedule: 112A

Address: MORRISTON PB & MB     

S 18 057 112A MORRISTON PB & MB      EDWARD JOSEPH               5   (c1836)
                                     -                               YES
S 18                                 NANCE HENRY                26   (c1815)
                                     SINKER                          NO 

(Yes = Born in Glamorgan , No = Not born in Glamorgan)