Name Change ?

[mary45]

I recently checked the IGI records on a family name of
Vallaney/Vallany. I was surprised to see a new entry with
entirely different christian names & an new variation of the surname ?

Birth 1887  (no date)
Christening 26 Feb 1889 at St. Marys ,Clayton Street, Newcastle upon Tyne.

Parents : Caroli  ?    should be Charles
               Maria  ?    should be Mary

Surname :  Vanelly 0r Vallaney ?

Unfortunatly there is still no more information on the birth date ?

I checked the 1901 census for a Caroli & Maria Vanelly but found nothing.

Any comments would be welcome.

mary45

[PaulineJ]

Carolus (in latin) == Charles (in English)

Pauline

[patrexjax]

Hello, Maria in Latin is transcibed as Mary......Pat

[mary45]

Thankyou Pauline & Pat for your comments.

[mary45]

I,m wondering why latin names were used...is this normal ??

In this case the couple were the " adoptive" parents of Ethel Vallaney.
Which I don't believe knowing their circumstances of poverty.

Regards
Mary45

[patrexjax]

Hello mary45, I am trying to assist you with this family, but need additional information: have you found the family in 1901 census yet?  perhaps the best way to determine Ethel's parents is to find her birth in on of the birth indexes and order her civil birth certificate.  A good one for the 1887 time frame is<www.freeBMD.org> and you should try BOTH spellings of her surname. Let me know how that goes for you. Also, her parents (guardians?) should be in 1901 census as Charles and Mary... Some churches used Latin names in their parish records until quite recently...do you know if the family was Church of England or Roman Catholic? Let me know if I can help any further.  Pat

[patrexjax]

Hello again, Further searching seems to indicate that your Ethel was baptised in a Roman Catholic Church and in that time they would have most cerainly used Latin in their parish registers. I cannot find her birth listed under the spelling in the IGI.....However,a promising entry in the freeBMD is for an Ethel VENNELL born in Bradford,W. district (5a130) -- also, it is noted that there do not appear to be any Vennell births recorded in Northumberland. It appears that Ethel's family moved "up North." That might also account for the fact that she was born in 1887 and not baptized until 1889.... Your thoughts?  Pat

[mary45]

Hi Pat !

Thankyou for your help & Information.

Ethel Vallaney according to her baptismal record was 2 yrs old in Febuary 1889.
(born in 1887)
Her adopted parents married in October of the same year 1887.
The marriage & Christening took place at the same catholic church.

This couple did not have any own natural children.

Her adopted father Charles Vallaney died age 32 in 1891.
Her mother re married in 1894 to James O, Connor.

I cannot find Ethel Vallaney //Vallany in the 1891 or 1901 census ??

  Mary45

[patrexjax]

Hello mary45, I cannot find any spelling of Ethel's surname except VENNELL. I don't have access to ancestry, but I am hoping you might find her with that spelling. Let me know how that turns out for you...if Ethel is not in those two censuses with that spelling, perhaps she simply took over the O'Conner name???  When she married, what name did she use??  Pat