TREASE/TRAIES continued...

[deb usa]

hi again

Just following through

In 1881
egbaston. Birmingham
52 Duchess rd
Alfred Fellows head  leather merchant N'hampton , Staffs
Lucy wife 46 b Hay, Brecon
HEPHZIBAH MORGAN wife's sister  44 b Hay Brecon
frances Fellows mother wid 76 b London
ellen cook ..servant

1901
Staffordshire ...Hephzibah is still with her sister Lucy and Alfred Fellows. she is 55 living on her own means.
By 1901 she is in Weston Super Mare, 65 and a boarder in a boarding house.

I think Lucy, her sister,  must be Louise as I cannot find any IGI christenings for a Lucy Morgan.

we now have another way of finding out who the dad was ... marriage:

Louisa Morgan = Alfred Fellows
Dec q 1861 Stourbridge , Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire
vol 6c p 281

deb  

just seen your post Bob ..will read

[gardenerbob]

Deb

Many of the Charles Williams pictures donated to Southampton City Art Museum were donated by Mr and Mrs Alfred Fellows - some in 1895  - the year after Charles and probably Elizabeth died - possibly they were bequeathed to them.

Bob

[deb usa]

Well, This is turning into a little bit of a mystery ... LOL

Just found something on passenger lists ...

Ships name: ROSCIUS
departed Liverpool and arrived NY 23 feb 1839
H TREASE 40
Hannah TREASE 36
James 8
Mary A 5
Niyt ?? can't make it out ...Female 3
Rosa? 1

will try to follow them up in 1840 ...

deb

[kerryb]

Hi Deb

Are you getting just a little obsessed with the Trease/Traies/Trayes family 

Seriously, you are doing brilliant work and I am having trouble keeping up and I just felt compelled to encourage you 

Kerry

[deb usa]

Thanks Kerry 

Ummm ...obsessed ...well maybe just a little .... Maybe I should try and look for my own family for a change ... LOL 

deb

[kerryb]

I used to think that other people's families were more interesting than mine ----- till I started on the Traies family 

I'm just helping Aussie Jack on the Kent board, he is descended from the Roffes of Tunbridge Wells and I think connected to George and William Henry Roffe who married Ann and Jane Traies.

Small world or what!

Kerry

[deb usa]

hey , kerry

If you need some support on the Kent board ...let me know...LOL

My families seem to be very interesting , especially the gypsy side ...but I can't find them .... arrgghhhhhhh ...so I'll stick with the Tr**s , thankewverymuch 

deb

[deb usa]

Deb

Many of the Charles Williams pictures donated to Southampton City Art Museum were donated by Mr and Mrs Alfred Fellows - some in 1895  - the year after Charles and probably Elizabeth died - possibly they were bequeathed to them.

Bob

eeekkkkkk who is Charles and Elizabeth ?

 


added ...okay Charles Frederick Williams and Elizabeth Traies .... if the paintings are of Wales and we have Louisa Morgan (b Wales and a sister in law to Elizabeth Traies b Baltimore) marrying Alfred  FELLOWS ...then all of this has to add up somehow

a mystery ...woohoo ...love them

[gardenerbob]

Hi Deb,

Ace detective work! It does all fit. Assume:-
James Traies died. His wife Elizabeth remarried to a Morgan - then  the Morgan sisters and her share the same mother - the Elizabeth Nicks b c abt 1795.
What is wrong on the tree I put on the web is placing the 1861 census return and 1862 deaths against Elizabeth Traies nee Nicks - they must belong to a different Elizabeth TRAIES - her details will be found under Elizabeth Morgan.

Re the TREASE family who emigrated to New York - if the spelling of the surname was deliberate rather than a mistranscription or guess this could be very significant for TREASE research  - could you let me know where to find the passenger list so I can study this one more carefully.

Got to rush off now,

Bob