early look ups please pantry

[kascon]

i am looking for two possible brothers who married 2 sisters
i have them in 81 reports both married to their wives.
they married Elizabeth and Maria Pantry sometimes spelt Pantrey.
they are Jesse and George Weddle. Jesse born Hawkhurst Kent c1839and George c1851 Ticehurst sussex.
both living in Hawkhurst with their respective families according to 1881 census in Hawkhurst, kent
cant find a birth on Free bmd for either of them . only one that corresponds is George and its in Belford up North somewhere. no Jesse so dont know if its short for something.

i know its not really sussex but with both them and their wives being moved between kent and sussex didnt know which one to go for.

any help much appreciated.

kas

[kerryb]

Hi Kas

I found George on the 1861 confirming that he was in Hawkhurst and born in Ticehurst which comes under Hawkhurst.

RG9 508 112 5
The Hawth, Hawkhurst
George Weddle, 40 Ag Lab born Hawkhurst
Elizabeth Weddle, wife 46, born Ticehurst
George Weddle, son, 11 scholar born Ticehurst
Mary A Weddle, daughter, 9 scholar born Ticehurst
Caroline Weddle, daughter, 6 scholar born Hawkhurst

Kerry

[sillgen]

Hi
You need to look for them in earlier census records.  In 1851 the Weddle family are in Flimwell.  
HO107 1639 F 90
George Weddell 30 ag lab B Hawkhurst
Elizabeth 34
Sarah 6
Elizabeth 4
Ellen 2
George 1 all b Ticehurst
then at HO107 1639 F 88
Robert Weddell Wid lodger 52 ag lab b Hawkhurst
Jesse 15 Lodger 15 ag lab b Hawkhurst
Head of Household is Wright.
This makes it look as if they may be uncle and nephew so I should check carefully.
Andrea

[kerryb]

I've had a look on the birth index on findmypast for George but strangely he is not under Weddell so either he wasn't registered or he is under another name.

Kerry

[kerryb]

Found him:

George Weddell
1849
Q - Dec
District - Ticehurst
Volume - 7
Page 516

Just needed to widen the years a bit

Kerry

[sillgen]

He is on Ancestry free bit in Dec 1849 Ticehurst.  Searched under Wedd*
Andrea
Ah, see you got there Kerry!

[kerryb]

Looks like Jesse is before 1837 according to age on 1851 census.  Unfortunately Hawkhurst is not on Hugh Wallis.

Kerry

[lizdb]

Getting their marriage certs would give father's names and help confirm their relationship.

oct/Nov/Dec 1875
Cranbrook Reg District ref 2a 1139
George Weddle
Maria Pantry

Jul/Aug/Sep 1867
Ticehurst reg district ref 2b 132
Jesse Weddle
Elizabeth Pantry

[kascon]

ok so they wernt brothers but more either unles and nephew or perhaps cousins. as it doesnt say brother of parent on census but just lodger. youd have thoght that the census reporter would have queeried that at the time.
i notice you say that the head of household is Wright. whats the whole report then as there is no Wright member there.

kas

cant afford certs sorry. if i had done that when i started it would have cost me thousands by now.