Lady Ellisha Mathew

[AshleyBlay]

Hi All,

I am unsure if this is still active but upon reading this i believe i may be related to some of you and the ancestors discussed however i have not managed to link them into my own tree yet,

would anyone be able to assist? my father and his side of the family have been absent since i was 2 so i have no information or relatives to get much info from..

this is what i have so far, if anyone could validate and help me trace back further or add to my info i would be very grateful..

My Great Grandfather was Edward H Matthews (1918-1991) m. Joan Ellen Docwra

My GG Grandfather was George Humphries Matthews m. Lilian Christina Langron

My GGG Grandfather was William Henry Dundas Matthews m. Mabella Louisa Davies

My GGGG Grandfather John Matthews (1802-1879) - I have no information further back than him, nor do i have a wife so i have reached a dead end.

I would be grateful for any help if anyone is able to assist

Thank You
Ashley

[Kiltaglassan]

My Great Grandfather was Edward H Matthews (1918-1991) m. Joan Ellen Docwra

My GG Grandfather was George Humphries Matthews m. Lilian Christina Langron

Can you confirm for others here that these are the details of these two marriages above?

From https://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Marriage Jan-Mar 1946
Docwra Joan E & Matthews Edward    Surrey N.W.  2a   931
   
Marriage Jul-Sep 1913
Langron Lily C &    Matthews George H    Holyhead  11b   826

My GGG Grandfather was William Henry Dundas Matthews m. Mabella Louisa Davies

Marriage 30th August 1864 at Donnybrook Parish Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1864/11618/8277233.pdf

William living in Rathgar, parish of Rathfarnham.
https://www.townlands.ie/dublin/rathdown/rathfarnham/rathfarnham/rathgar/

Mabella living at Mount Sandford House, Cullenswood.
https://www.townlands.ie/dublin/uppercross/st-peters/rathmines-and-rathgar-east/cullenswood/


KG

[heywood]

Is this John Matthews death in 1879?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1879/06529/4881515.pdf

If so, There is a newspaper snippet 7th January 1879 which mentions him being the son of ‘the late John Matthews. vicar Choral of St Patrick’s Cathedral’. I can’t work out which John has the title.

However, I searched and this came up - I think these people have posted on this thread
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=707975.0

[heywood]

Here is John Matthews in the Calendar of Wills- his widow is named as Margaret
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014894/005014894_00642.pdf

[AshleyBlay]

My Great Grandfather was Edward H Matthews (1918-1991) m. Joan Ellen Docwra

My GG Grandfather was George Humphries Matthews m. Lilian Christina Langron

Can you confirm for others here that these are the details of these two marriages above?

From https://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Marriage Jan-Mar 1946
Docwra Joan E & Matthews Edward    Surrey N.W.  2a   931
   
Marriage Jul-Sep 1913
Langron Lily C &    Matthews George H    Holyhead  11b   826

My GGG Grandfather was William Henry Dundas Matthews m. Mabella Louisa Davies

Marriage 30th August 1864 at Donnybrook Parish Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1864/11618/8277233.pdf

William living in Rathgar, parish of Rathfarnham.
https://www.townlands.ie/dublin/rathdown/rathfarnham/rathfarnham/rathgar/

Mabella living at Mount Sandford House, Cullenswood.
https://www.townlands.ie/dublin/uppercross/st-peters/rathmines-and-rathgar-east/cullenswood/


KG

Hi KG,

Those Marriages are correct yes, thanks for the information!

Ashley

[AshleyBlay]

Is this John Matthews death in 1879?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1879/06529/4881515.pdf

If so, There is a newspaper snippet 7th January 1879 which mentions him being the son of ‘the late John Matthews. vicar Choral of St Patrick’s Cathedral’. I can’t work out which John has the title.

However, I searched and this came up - I think these people have posted on this thread
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=707975.0

Hi Heywood,

That sounds about right, I have his death listed as 7th Jan 1879 which would coincide with that newspaper article, however I believe he died on the 5th now, thanks for your help. I need an account to see the records on the irish genealogy so I will create an account later.

Thanks, Ashley

[Kiltaglassan]

I need an account to see the records on the irish genealogy so I will create an account later.

You don't need to create an account. The website has free records both for civil and church - click either box.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

When the Captcha comes up, click it. Then enter a single initial in Section 61 box, click white box and click Submit.

Easy, peasy

KG

[Desertrose920]

Am I the only one who thinks a movie needs to be made of the Mathews of Thomastown? I descend from James ll the orphan or illegitimate son of Thomas.

[Desertrose920]

There are no years in dates of these posts! I descend from the sister of Father Theobald Mathews and am trying to work out the exact relationship to Lady Elizabeth Mathews. Theobald father James is said to have been Elizabeth’s uncle. Other sources have James as the illegitimate son of Thomas making him a 1/2 sibling to Elizabeth.  I suspect she had children. There is a marriage cert for a Gertrude Mathews to a William Hacker. Present were Lady Elizabeth and her cousin whom she left to castle to. Was she a daughter if Elizabeth?
I would like to chat with other researchers and compare DNA samples.