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Help deciphering a Kerry village/parish beginning with 'Inch'
« on: Thursday 13 November 08 00:53 GMT (UK) »
I've just received a certificate which gives my great great grandmother's place of birth in Kerry. Unfortunately the name of the town/village/parish is difficult to read but it is a 13 letter word that begins with 'Inch' and appears to end with 'lla'. I've looked on various Irish & Kerry genie sites and haven't found a place that matches, plenty of ones beginning with 'Inch' but none that end in 'lla'. The last few letters might even be 'scalla'.

Any suggestions out there most welcome.

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Re: Help deciphering a Kerry village/parish beginning with 'Inch'
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 13 November 08 01:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Can you scan it BUT only that part containing the address should be posted on this board and perhaps somebody may recognise it
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Re: Help deciphering a Kerry village/parish beginning with 'Inch'
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 13 November 08 15:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi no nothing with lla on the end. I don't suppose it could be Inchinascarty
               If it is then the Parish is Dromod.

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Re: Help deciphering a Kerry village/parish beginning with 'Inch'
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 13 November 08 21:40 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the tip about the scanning - I'm new to the site and didn't know you could that.

Hope it helps...



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Re: Help deciphering a Kerry village/parish beginning with 'Inch'
« Reply #4 on: Friday 14 November 08 11:47 GMT (UK) »
Was this an Irish certificate? If so it should show the registration disctrict which may help to narrow the area for the placename.
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Re: Help deciphering a Kerry village/parish beginning with 'Inch'
« Reply #5 on: Friday 14 November 08 15:59 GMT (UK) »
As Ann Says was this an Irish cert:? The only old townland I have heard of is inchcauascalla the english version is skoolhill in Co,Limerick civil parish Fedamore.
     But not much help when you are looking Co,Kerry.

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Re: Help deciphering a Kerry village/parish beginning with 'Inch'
« Reply #6 on: Friday 14 November 08 16:07 GMT (UK) »
As Ann Says was this an Irish cert:? The only old townland I have heard of is inchcauascalla the english version is skoolhill in Co,Limerick civil parish Fedamore.
 But not much help when you are looking Co,Kerry.

Looks like a close match to the townland on the certificate- wonder if the Kerry part is wrong? What is the handwriting from and who would have provided the information?
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Re: Help deciphering a Kerry village/parish beginning with 'Inch'
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 15 November 08 00:48 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou everyone for your replies.

I think the Inchcauascalla suggestion is correct. The certificate is an Australian birth certificate for my great grandmother and included details of her parents place of birth - her father was German, but her mother's name was Catherine Foley (and her mother was an O'Donnell).

The birth was registered by a neighbour 6 months after Margaret was born and perhaps got some of the information wrong. The same neighbour registered Margaret's elder sister's birth and just gave County Kerry as her mother's birthplace. I haven't been able to find a marriage certificate for the parents (which would presumably be more accurate because the bride would have known her birthplace). The family persisted with the Kerry connection, presumably because that was all they knew but the couple also had connections (familial or otherwise) to other Kerry families (Herlihy in particular) in the small goldmining town they lived in.

You probably didn't need to know all that, but you've all been a great help, thankyou.

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Re: Help deciphering a Kerry village/parish beginning with 'Inch'
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 15 November 08 03:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi LGee,

Given that the family apparently believed that they came from Kerry, I wouldn't be discounting Inchinascarty yet.

Especially as the place on your scan begins "Inchanasca ..." which could easily be a rendering of "Inchinasca ...".  It looks the same - and doesn't look like the beginning of the townland of "Inchcauascalla" in Limerick.
Of course, I don't know how they'd be pronounced in Ireland  :)

And the "e" at the end could easily be rendition of "y".

That would leave the "ll" to be explained.  Does the Registrar cross his/her 't's - or could it be "lt" which could sound the same as "rt"?

It might be worth looking at the Griffiths Valuation to see which surnames occur in these two townlands (the Limerick one rendered as Skoolhill in the GV).

A quick look at the failteromhat site shows Foley, Herlihy and O'Donnell in the parish of Dromod but, of those names, only O'Donnell in Fedamore.

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JAP