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Offline Nick29

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Brothers or not ? It's driving me mad !
« on: Sunday 18 January 09 14:22 GMT (UK) »
When I first researched my tree, I got back to my paternal g.g. grandfather, William Martin, born about 1804, and in the two censuses he appeared on, he said that his birth place was either "London, Middlesex", or just "London".  Now, on one census William Martin was shown living with his family in the house of Amy Martin, the widow of a Thomas Martin (with Amy as the head of the household), and since William was listed as a "brother-in-law", and his son as "nephew", I assumed that William & Thomas were brothers.  However, Thomas only appears on two censuses, the 1841 and 1851, and on the 1841 census he's "of this county" (Kent), and on the 1851 he's apparently born in Plaistow, Kent (a hamlet near Bromley).

However, I subsequently found out that Amy (wife of Thomas) and Mary (wife of William) were sisters, so maybe Thomas and William were not brothers at all ?   The problem is that when I find things that fit William, they don't fit Thomas.  I've just found a possible Christening record for William in St Andrews, Middlesex, which I think was in Enfield, and there are other family connections there, but unless the whole family uprooted themselves and moved to Plaistow, I can't see the possibility of Thomas and William being brothers.  Maybe the surname was just a co-incidence ?   William married Mary in Plumstead, Kent and Thomas married Amy in Lee, Kent.

I've asked this a couple of times before and it didn't really go anywhere.  If I don't resolve it soon, I think I will lose my marbles !   :)

If you need more information, I posted a lot here in a previous thread.

RIP 1949-10th January 2013

Best Wishes,  Nick.

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Re: Brothers or not ? It's driving me mad !
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 January 09 18:11 GMT (UK) »
Sounds to me like the Martin name is just a coincidence. William would still be Amy's brother-in-law by the fact that he married her sister. I think they just did these things to keep us on our toes!  ;)

I have a Mary Barker in my tree who married a Thomas barker - has certainly led to a lot of confusiion!
Bell, Salter, Street - Devon, Middlesbrough.
Lickess- North Yorkshire, Middlesbrough.
Etherington - North Yorks and Durham.
Barker- North Yorks
Crooks- Durham
Forster- North Yorks/Durham
Newsam, Pattison, Proud - North Yorks.
Timothy, Griffiths, Jones - South Wales