Germany: KNELLER

[Berlin-Bob]

Hi Clare,


It's about 10-15 € but I'm sure they will let you know.

Be sure to write that he is your greatgreatgrandfather as there are rules about only direct descendants having access etc.


Good luck,
Bob

[Berlin-Bob]

Hi Clare,

I'll write to them, sometime in the next few days ......

sorry it took longer than I said, but I have now sent an e-mail to the newspaper.

now we just have to wait ......


Bob

[Berlin-Bob]

Hi Clare,

just had a phone call from a Herr Kneller in Kunzelsau !!!!!

He said that your Otto Kneller is probably some kind of cousin, as he is descended from another Otto Kneller.  He has some letters from other Knellers in England and America and he will send me copies within the next few weeks, to pass on to you.

Watch this space

Bob

[kneller1980]

Wow Bob, thank you so very very much-that is AMAZING!!! i've wrote to the kunzelsau records office and emailed them so fingers crossed i'll be hearing something back soon.

it did get an email from the Wurttemberg and Baden office...which stated 'The City of Kuenzelsau has copies of the Church records. We have 1 list with KNELLER families, the youngest one 1739 born, leather specialist, later they owned a mill and later generations where millers.'

So again that is quite exciting maybe these are cousins? As i know Otto was a pork butcher and his brothers were also the same...Otto seemed to progress from Gut Scraper upwards and i know he was involved in tanning the skin..so this is kind of linked to leather specialist losely.

I have found his father was Named FRIEDRICH KNELLER and in 1892 on Ottos(1st) marriage certificate it states deceased and he was a brewer.

marriage cert also states he lived in Blackburn...though it's hard to make out the exact address.

Again thank you so much for you help, i truly appreciate it

[kneller1980]

A reply from the Kunzelsau office...


 
Otto Kneller was the youngest son from Georg Friedrich Kneller (1810-1870) in Künzelsau.
The father wasn't brewer but winegrower.
We didn't find him coming back to Künzelsau after being deported back to Germany.
Another Otto Kneller originating from Künzelsau (born in Berlin) is the individual who ran a textile shop in Berlin, and returned to Künzelsau, where the shop existed until last year.
Perhaps your great great grandfather run also a textile shop, perhaps he wasn't. But both Otto are originating from the same family tree.
I guess it will be possible to get more informations in the parochial register - but it will cost fees.
 
More confused now

[kneller1980]

me again

I have spoken to a relative who went to see Otto in the fifties...he was then living in Schorndorf.

I am trying to find an email address for their record offices to find out whether he died there in 1969.

anyone have any ideas what it is please?

many thanks

[Berlin-Bob]

Hi Clare,

The Kneller s came to Künzelsau in 1606 and have been there ever since, so there are probably several Kneller families around.

Herr Kneller mentioned 4 brothers in his grandfather's (or maybe G-Grandfather's) generation, and even without the "family connection", Otto is a very common name in Germany (probably because one of their rulers, many years ago, was called Ottokar).

I'm looking forward to getting the letters soon, and then we can maybe unravel a bit more

Bob

[Berlin-Bob]

Schorndorf is about 60 Km. south of Künzelsau.

http://www.schorndorf.de/servlet/PB/menu/1158171_l1/index.html

but I can't find the Standesamt (Regisry Office)

There is a City Archives here:
http://www.schorndorf.de/servlet/PB/menu/1158262_l1/index.html

perhaps you can e-mail them; if they haven't got those records, they will at least tell where you might find them.

Bob

[Berlin-Bob]

Hi Clare,

the Easter Bunny came early this year 

Just found an envelope full of data in my post-box, from Herr Kneller in Künzelsau.

George Friedrich Kneller is described there as "Vintner and brewer".
So it looks like he was both;  but maybe he didn't always give both occupations on every document ?

Apart fom his own data, Herr Kneller has sent copies of three letters from Kneller researchers, one in Canada, two in Britain.
It seems there was also an Otto Kneller who came from Canada to Britain .....   

Send me a PM with your address and I'll send it all on to you

Bob