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Francois Mandeville Contrecouer, Quebec
« on: Sunday 03 May 09 21:17 BST (UK) »
I'm trying to sort out informationon  the parents of my great great grandfather, Norbert Mandeville. I have seen the names Francois and Theotiste Charpentier associated as his parents. I have also read that Norbert was born March 24, 1831 in Contrecouer and Francois and Theotiste had a son that day but it reads Gilbert Mandeville.  I have Norberts marriage and clearly his father's name was Francis/Francois but the mothers name is hard to decipher.



Norbert's Death certificate has "unknown parents"

If anyone has any information that would clarify this, I'd appreciate the help.
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Re: Francois Mandeville Contrecouer, Quebec
« Reply #1 on: Monday 04 May 09 00:33 BST (UK) »
It doesn't look like Theotiste to me. The first letter of her name looks the same as the "A" in Albert and Ann.

I couldn't find any Norbert or Albert Mandevilles born in 1831 in the Drouin Collection, only much later. If he went by Norbert and was married as Albert then it is possible that he is also Gilbert.

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Re: Francois Mandeville Contrecouer, Quebec
« Reply #2 on: Monday 04 May 09 12:12 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the reply. He seemed to alternate between Norbert and Albert, as did his son and grandson, so I wasn't dismissing Gilbert all together. Plus I poured overthe Sorel & Contrecouer records and found no other close match.  I'm just hoping to find corroberating information.  I thought the mother's name looked like Aretheseisis They smooshed the Mandeville in at the end, and could possibly be Aretheotiste.  The person recording wrote Mainville instead of Mandeville. Maybe they misheard.  Thank you again for your input.
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Re: Francois Mandeville Contrecouer, Quebec
« Reply #3 on: Friday 31 July 09 02:09 BST (UK) »
They were trying perhaps to spell Anasthasie / Anastasia, as it looks more like an "n" to me, than an "r".
Is that image of the handwriting 100% the way you found it, as if not, perhaps I can enhance the image
if you put just the portion with the name on the thread...  J.J.
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Re: Francois Mandeville Contrecouer, Quebec
« Reply #4 on: Friday 31 July 09 11:52 BST (UK) »
Here is just the name. It gets fuzzy when you zoom,
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Re: Francois Mandeville Contrecouer, Quebec
« Reply #5 on: Friday 31 July 09 15:55 BST (UK) »
It might also be Arethusia...as it does seem to be an "r" but why the double back as in an "n" or "s"...but doesn't match either in the handwriting  (Mind you when I look at my son's handwriting... :P)
Note the final "a" matches the one in Anna....
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Re: Francois Mandeville Contrecouer, Quebec
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 05 August 09 23:36 BST (UK) »
There are a number of people who have Norbert as the son of Theotiste Charpentier. Since his death record lists parents unknown. His marriage is this indecipherable name and Theotiste and Francois had a son (identified as Gilbert ) on the date many have attached to Norbert as a birth date. I guess I will research them and see if it leads me to Norbert.
Thank you for your help with this.
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Re: Francois Mandeville Contrecouer, Quebec
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 06 August 09 02:44 BST (UK) »
There is this site which says she was Theotiste (Arthemise) Charpentier and it is possible she may have had a middle name that her son remembered badly...or the image we see was wrongly transcribed by this person...
Wish we could find a marriage or bond...Can't seem to find one online.
http://www.jenforum.com/mandeville/messages/126.html
Also states that full name is Francois-Hyacinthe & that he was son of Hyacinthe Mandeville and Agathe Lange...wonder if they found her parents as well in their searches...J.J.
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Re: Francois Mandeville Contrecouer, Quebec
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 06 August 09 03:13 BST (UK) »
I actually have found all the Drouin Records for Francois- Hyacynthe birth and death and his parents, as well as marriage to Theotiste and her parents and other family members.

I was looking for a connection to Norbert and the documents I have thus far.
That someone lists her middle name as one so close to what I have gives me a lot of assurance that this is the right track. Thank you for all your help.
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