St Edmunds Salisbury Wlitshire - RODWELL Thomas 1778

[krisesjoint]

Hi Warren,

Looks like you are really getting stuck in to this. As you say this Dorset family may well be Thomas and Mary COOMBS, but is he your Thomas. I note Mary is a farmer on the census. 

Here are the Dorset baptisms I have found listed to Thomas and Mary, unfortunately nothing late enough to provide an occupation for Thomas. I note Mary aged 25 on the census so there is a chance of others and perhaps there being a baptism for Mary after the forms arrive in 1813 which will then provide an occupation for Thomas. We also have Eliza from the burial records but looks like she was born 1812 so will probably just miss the forms. We have 6 baptisms listed in a little over 8 years.

Thomas 20 Sep 1801 Tincleton
Jane 25 Dec 1802 Tincleton
John 8 May 1804 Tincleton
Charles 26 June 1805 Tincleton
John 30 Jan 1807 Tincleton
Harry 11 Jan 1809 Tincleton

Cheers Kris 

[krisesjoint]

No - not the same person 

Thomas RODWELL = Mary GERMAN by licence 9 May 1801 Tincleton.

died and buried Hampreston 14 Aug 1832 aged 58 (of Longham) I see his children's burials list the same abode (Eliza, Thomas, Charles)

Kris 

[krisesjoint]

Warren,

I am just wondering where you managed to get Martha's name? I have not found it anywhere. (Apart from you listing it as Alton) Guessing it is perhaps from Davids Victorian death certificate. Just been having another look to see if I could spot anything.

As to the prison records for James. I am afraid that is all I found. Just the Wiltshire Quarter Sessions index entry. I suggest you place a separate request for this. Hope someone is able to help.

There does appear to be a Naval Record for a James RODWELL born Wiltshire (aged 21 in 1845)

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATLN=7&CATID=-5562703&FullDetails=True&j=1&Gsm=2008-08-08

Cheers Kris 

[RODWELL]

No - not the same person 

Thomas RODWELL = Mary GERMAN by licence 9 May 1801 Tincleton.
died and buried Hampreston 14 Aug 1832 aged 58 (of Longham) I see his children's burials list the same abode (Eliza, Thomas, Charles)

Hi Kris 

That's unfortunate (above). Now, Mary Rodwell (nee German) from Dorset can be excluded from further research regarding  the other Thomas Rodwell (B:1778 Salisbury Wiltshire).

On a separate note ...

Hi Warren,

" ...  There is a Pallots entry for
Thomas RODWELL = Mary COOMBS 1797 Salisbury St Edmund (May connect)

Hopefully somebody will able to help further with Salisbury Records. I have not been able to find a marriage for either Thomas or his father Samuel ..."

Cheers Kris

The above marriage still merits consideration ....
1797: Thomas RODWELL & Mary COOMBS St Edmunds Salisbury Wiltshire

The mystery is what became of Mary Rodwell (nee Coombs) because Martha Rodwell (nee Alton or Elton) is shown as the mother of Thomas Rodwell's children born from about 1817 onwards.


Cheers
Warren

[RODWELL]

Warren,

I am just wondering where you managed to get Martha's name? I have not found it anywhere. (Apart from you listing it as Alton) Guessing it is perhaps from Davids Victorian death certificate. Just been having another look to see if I could spot anything.

Cheers Kris 

Hi Kris,

Another researcher previously sent me a copy of a document which appeared to her to be a church record of the Descendants of Thomas Rodwell. Thomas & Martha (husband & wife) are included; as too are their son David (B:1819 Salisbury Wiltshire), his wife Rosina Hammond, and their three sons (born in Tasmania & Victoria).

If so desired, I could forward a copy of this document by email to you. It's a bit hard to reproduce in this thread / forum. Martha is shown as Elton or Alton. I can't remember why I chose Alton. Maybe I found something online.

Cheers
Warren   


CROSS REFERENCE :
This thread with lookup request Martha ALTON or ELTON (B:1786)
(wife of Thomas Rodwell, Shoemaker; B:1778 Salisbury, Wiltshire)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,384719.0.html

Thanks KRIS: for confirming Martha ELTON in her lookup thread

[RODWELL]

As to the prison records for James. I am afraid that is all I found. Just the Wiltshire Quarter Sessions index entry. I suggest you place a separate request for this. Hope someone is able to help.

There does appear to be a Naval Record for a James RODWELL born Wiltshire (aged 21 in 1845)

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATLN=7&CATID=-5562703&FullDetails=True&j=1&Gsm=2008-08-08

Cheers Kris 

Hi Kris,

That's a possibility, and could account for him vanishing from English records.

CROSS REFERENCE:
Separate lookup request James RODWELL County Prison 1844
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,385991.0.html


Cheers
Warren

[RODWELL]

A detailed outline of the RODWELL PEDIGREE for descendants
of THOMAS RODWELL baptized 25 Dec 1778 St Edmunds
Salisbury Wiltshire England
 
Father:  SAMUEL RODWELL  St Martins Salisbury
Mother:  Mary (nee WARD)
Married: 21 May 1771 St Edmunds

Husband: THOMAS RODWELL B:1778 Salisbury Wiltshire
Married:   Martha Elton B:1786 (Parents:Thomas & Sarah Elton)
             *Shown as widowed almswoman 1861 England Census

Thomas Rodwell (B:1778) Children:
1817 George Rodwell   M: Eliza Wheatland ex Hampshire
1819 DAVID RODWELL Transported to Tasmania 1838
1821 Caroline Rodwell D: March 1842 Salisbury Wiltshire
1823 Richard Rodwell  1840 M: Eliza Perren ex Hampshire
1826 Edward Rodwell  1847 M: Mary Barnes ; St Edmunds
1827 James Rodwell    2 July 1844 Wiltshire County Prison
1830 Martha Rodwell   1861 Salisbury;no husband present

DAVID RODWELL B:1819 son of shoemaker Thomas Rodwell, 
arrived Hobart Tasmania Australia Aug 1838 per convict ship
Lord William Bentinck (2).

*Dark complexion 
*Oval visage *Medium nose
*Round head *High forehead
*Tatto on right arm of woman
*Height (no shoes) 5' 3.5" 161.3 cms   
*Brown hair & eyebrows *Green eyes 
*Scars on ball of left thumb & on right cheek

1838 David Rodwell arrived Australia (D:1888)
1845 Free Certificate Gained; Hobart TAS No.150
1846 M: Rosina Hammond (B:1824 Chelmsford Essex D:1853)

ROSINA RODWELL (HAMMOND) wife of David Rodwell (B:1819)

*Transported for stealing a loaf of bread & a petticoat
*Trade recorded on convict papers ; housemaid & cooking
*Departed London 8 Sep 1844 on the ship Tasmania (1) age 19
*Arrived Hobart Tasmania Australia 20 Dec 1844 Sentence 7 years
*M: David Rodwell 1 Dec 1846 St Georges Church of England Hobart
*Recommended for conditonal pardon on 23 Jan 1849 - approved 5 Feb 1850

Personal Description of Rosina Hammond: Light hair & eyebrows, medium wide mouth,
scar under left eye, fair complexion, oval visage & head, round chin, medium high fore
head, small nose, height 5'1", religion Protestant, read or write: some. brothers and
sisters of Rosina Hammond (B:1824): Cornelius, Alex, Esther, Martha, Diana Hammond;
Chelmsford Essex England

David Rodwell (B:1819) Children:
1848 DAVID CORNELIUS RODWELL Tasmania
1850 George Edward Rodwell  D1866 Victoria
1852 Walter Thomas Rodwell  D1875 Victoria


DAVID CORNELIUS RODWELL (B:1848) grandson of Thomas Rodwell,
could be of particular interest to descendants & researchers.

1838 David Cornelius Rodwell born 11 Aug Clarence Plains Hobart TAS
1852 Family arrived Victoria Australia most likely Castlemaine goldfields
1870 M:23 May to Mary Anne Curnick (B:1853 Melksham Wiltshire England)
1871 First child of twelve born to David & Mary Rodwell ; see below
1913 David Cornelius Rodwell died Percydale Victoria Aust
1929 Mary Anne Rodwell (nee Curnick) died Avoca Vic

David C Rodwell (B:1848) Children:
- 1871 David James Rodwell - Married: Mary Rayner
- 1873 George Rodwell - Married: Elizabeth Wyhoon
- 1875 Ernest Albert Rodwell - Maried: Elizabeth Allan
- 1878 Edward Thomas Rodwell -  M: Emma Allan
- 1880 Rosina Annie Rodwell - Married: Charles Wyles
- 1883 Samuel Richard Rodwell -  M: Elizabeth Meredith
- 1885 Charles Walter Rodwell - Son: Percy Rodwell   
- 1887 Lilian Marion Rodwell - Married: Hugh Cheyne
- 1890 Willliam Frederick Rodwell 
- 1892 Henry Owen Rodwell - Married: Mabel Pitcher
- 1895 Violet Elizabeth Rodwell - M: Victor Lee / Ellis
- 1898 Elizabeth Daisy Rodwell - M: Tom Anderson

David C Rodwell (B:1848) Grandchildren:
David J 1871 = Herbert Rodwell
George 1873 = Stanley Rodwell, Kathleen, Percy Rodwell, Harold Rodwell, William Rodwell, Frederick Rodwell
Ernest  1875 = Elizabeth Rodwell, Edward Rodwell, Jack Rodwell, Nellie Rodwell, Dorothy Rodwell
Edward 1878 = Ernest Rodwell, Victor Rodwell, Kenneth Rodwell
Rosina  1880 = Charles Wyles, Ivan Wyles
Samuel 1883  = Dorothy Rodwell, Stephen David Cornelius Rodwell (1908), Violet Rodwell
Charles 1885 = Percy Rodwell
Lilian   B1887 = Leslie Cheyne, Bruce Cheyne
William 1890  =
Henry B1892 = Henry Rodwell, Roy Rodwell, William Rodwell, Lilian Rodwell, Albert Rodwell
Violet B1895 = Frank, Isobel, Jim, Clarice, Rose, Ray, Victor, Alf, Len (Surnames: Lee & Ellis)
Daisy B1898 = Alice, David Anderson, Jean, Joyce, Thomas Anderson, Dorothy, Esme, Alma

SAMUEL RICHARD RODWELL(B:1883) great grandson of THOMAS RODWELL (B:1778)

*Born 30 Apr 1883 Percydale near Avoca Victoria Australia
*Coalminer (D:1937) Buried Rylstone General Cemetery NSW
*Married Elizabeth Meredith (B:1 May 1889 Burwood NSW) D:1964

Samuel R Rodwell (B:1883) Children:
1905 Dorothy Ann Rodwell ; B: Jumbunna Victoria; D:1991 ; Married Stanley Carter
1908 Stephen David Cornelius Rodwell ; B: Jumbunna; D:1985 ; M: Violet Florence Bennett
1911 Violet Isabel Rodwell ; B: Rylstone NSW; D: 1979; M: Ernest Dean (Occupation: coalminer)

Stephen D C Rodwell (B:1908) Children:
1929 David Richard Rodwell M:Sydney NSW; Ellen Agnes Scott ;parents
of Denise Ann Cappello, Wayne Richard Rodwell, Warren Richard Rodwell
1930 Harold (infant)
1931 Valda M: George Lester
1932 Arthur (infant)
1933 Stephen Rodwell

RODWELL 1880 PICTURE :

[RODWELL]

Over the past couple of years, I have continued RODWELL research
by travelling to Percydale (Victoria) & Hobart (Tasmania) in Australia,
as well as Salisbury Wiltshire (England). Detailed updates should be
available by clicking on the following website links ...

1. http://rodwellresearch.wordpress.com
2. http://www.familytreecircles.com/rodwell-from-salisbury-wiltshire-england-australia-17766.html
3. http://journals.worldnomads.com/warrenr/story/70758/United-Kingdom/RODWELL-from-Salisbury-Wiltshire-England
4. http://www.alivenotdead.com/WarrenRodwell/RODWELL-from-Salisbury-Wiltshire-England-profile-1197619.html

Various pictures should be viewable at ...
http://warrenrodwell.shutterfly.com/ancestry

[krisesjoint]

Warren,

Words fail me. May your release and recovery be speedy.
 
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Kris